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Islam: Compared to Muslims Communists Are Angels
http://islamexposed.com/ ^ | 2/6/02 | http://islamexposed.com/

Posted on 02/06/2002 4:56:47 PM PST by gg188

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To: TwoHouse
Arrogance in the face of courage seems trite

It's "arrogant" to point out that the guy can't write? Baloney.

One the point of his personal qualities, I am quite skeptical of any author who feels the need to inform the reader of his "courage." Apparently, you are willing to credulously accept his self-characterization on faith.

He's a self-involved blowhard with an excess of confidence and a shortage of talent. He reminds me of a certain head of state that our country was unfortunate enough to have had a few years back.

22 posted on 02/06/2002 8:35:20 PM PST by beckett
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To: gg188
more on islam here
23 posted on 02/06/2002 9:27:56 PM PST by MarMema
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To: beckett
You asked for it, you got it:

Go to hell!

24 posted on 02/06/2002 9:40:58 PM PST by FreeRadical
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To: MarMema,FreeRadical
But wait---Islam is a religion of peace.

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Excellent link. I hope that others will go check it out. The article but also more content further down in the thread.

25 posted on 02/06/2002 10:19:31 PM PST by gg188
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To: FreeRadical
You asked for it, you got it:

Go to hell!

Brilliant. Truly brilliant. You and the author have similar literary gifts.

I should note that I have not disputed the substance of the author's observations about Islam. Much of what he says is quite true, as many commentators have remarked since 9/11 and as many of us were well aware long before then. Islamic customs and practices are draconian, oppressive and, in all Islamic states except Turkey, anti-democratic.

All I have said on this thread is that this particular author is a poor writer.

26 posted on 02/06/2002 10:20:10 PM PST by beckett
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To: beckett
Islamic customs and practices are draconian, oppressive and, in all Islamic states except Turkey, anti-democratic.

The problem is that Turkey is SECULAR precisely to the extent it is anti-democratic. In truly free election Islamists would win there.

27 posted on 02/07/2002 2:48:20 AM PST by A. Pole
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To: WindRiverShoshoni
Your argument here hinges on a naive and total acceptance of self-serving self-descriptions of moslems, for moslems, by moslems. Not surprisingly, they paint a pretty picture of themselves.

What did you expect your search of moslem 'sources' to reveal about them and their demi-god? The truth?

I would liken this to myself describing my beat-up old Jeep as a luxurious 'Sport Utility Vehicle'.

I could weave a case for my assertion being true...

I could quote current, utterly unrelated data that describes various Jeep models as SUV's, and say. "See! My Jeep is therefor also an SUV!"

When challenged, I could select from literally hundreds of mechanical features that the two vehicles have (or appear to have) in common, and say, "See! The differences are superficial, mere point of view issues."

I could run, Shoshoni... I could run all day from the truth, but I couldn't hide from it. At the end of the day is the cold hard fact that my Jeep is a beat-up, old open tub of a rust bucket and the Sport Utility Vehicle is a luxurious closed car with more amenities than many so-called luxury cars.

It has always been in the moslem's interest to camouflage the demon at the center of their cult, to try and pass it off as God. They have zero self-interest in doing otherwise.

Believe what you want regarding the moslem 'god', friend, but beware...

If you get too close to that monster it'll take you like a rattlesnake takes a field mouse.

28 posted on 02/07/2002 3:21:21 AM PST by DWSUWF
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To: gg188
"...OUR lifetimes are the historical anomoly vis-a-vis Islam--a lull after the defeat of the Ottoman Turks early in the 20th century and before the terrorism of the last half of the century. People had better take a broader view of history than just their own little window or time-frame..."

Exactly right.

The struggle with the thralls of 'allah' is going to continue until one of two things happens...

It's going to continue until we bend our knees to their demonic 'god', or until we cleanse the world of their malignant cult.

I don't know about you, but those alien bastards will have to break my knees to bend them...

And, if they do that, the AUTHENTIC God in Heaven will not count it as submission to their devil-god.

29 posted on 02/07/2002 3:33:13 AM PST by DWSUWF
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To: beckett
It's "arrogant" to point out that the guy can't write? Baloney.

Your excessive stylistic concerns are effete and comical.

30 posted on 02/07/2002 3:39:03 AM PST by angkor
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To: DWSUWF
Islam is far from monolithic.
32 posted on 02/07/2002 4:11:43 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: WindRiverShoshoni
The quickest way to reduce the religious claims of mohammedans down to their foundation, of Allah being the one god, is to ask if "that God" has a son.
33 posted on 02/07/2002 4:48:56 AM PST by wita
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To: muawiyah
"...Islam is far from monolithic..."

If a de-fanged version of the islama-rama-ding-dong cult can be cobbled together that doesn't threaten the people of the world (beginning with us), that's fine.

They can worship broken Sunbeam toasters for all I care. The Devil knows what to do with them, when they shuffle off this mortal coil and hit the tiles on the floor of Hell so hard that they crack.

But until they saddle up and join the human race posse they are my blood enemy, and I'll be predisposed to support those whose agenda is to bring them to destruction.

34 posted on 02/07/2002 5:23:38 AM PST by DWSUWF
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To: wita
I do not believe that "Allah" of the Muslims is the God of Jews and Christians (even though most Muslims believe he is).However, if you use that formula, you would have to say that Jews do not worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob either since they don't believe God has a Son.
35 posted on 02/07/2002 6:30:58 AM PST by constitutiongirl
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To: gg188
The author needs an editor.
36 posted on 02/07/2002 6:45:34 AM PST by js1138
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To: gg188
Substitute Judaism for Islam and you can see just how evil this article is.
37 posted on 02/07/2002 6:47:18 AM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: DWSUWF
If a de-fanged version of the islama-rama-ding-dong cult can be cobbled together that doesn't threaten the people of the world (beginning with us), that's fine.

Good point. I watched the show on the WTC collapse last night and could only think how much I'd enjoy seeing the destruction of every building constructed by the Ben Laden family. Including Mecca, which needs to be buried in radioactive ash.

On the other hand, if they ever become housebroken and quit stinking up the world, they can have their fairy tales.

38 posted on 02/07/2002 6:52:38 AM PST by js1138
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To: js1138
"...Including Mecca, which needs to be buried in radioactive ash..."

Mecca, and the grotesque idols it harbors, is so tied up with malignant islamania that it must be obliterated even if a domesticated version of goat-demon worship is devised.

39 posted on 02/07/2002 6:58:25 AM PST by DWSUWF
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To: DWSUWF
It's going to continue until we bend our knees to their demonic 'god', or until we cleanse the world of their malignant cult.

Yes, and it isn't racist wackos who are saying that---it's mainstream historians and authors at places like Harvard and Yale. That's what makes me amazed that posters get on here and say the things they say. There's a famous book, "The Clash of Civlizations," written four years ago, (on the COVER of the book is the WORLD TRADE CENTER, incidentally), and it and others point out that the world's defining forces are not opposing polities but rather CIVILIZATIONS, i.e., Western civilization versus the 13-century-long, ceaseless advance of the bloodthirsty hegemonic forces of the mohammedans.

In OUR lifetimes, we may vaguely remember a few pages about the Moors in a history class, for example, but the century in which we lived most of our lives was a time when the forces of good had to face down the forces of communism and nazism and Japanese imperialism. But these were just bumps in the road of history; centuries before, and centuries after, we---the civilized, Godly and righteous people of the world---must face down an enemy a thousand times bigger, stronger, and more determined, than marxists or the nazis. This enemy's oath to exterminate us springs not just from their ideology, but from their core "religious" belief. This enemy is the cult of mohammed, the moonworshipping heathuns.

I don't know about you, but those alien bastards will have to break my knees to bend them... And, if they do that, the AUTHENTIC God in Heaven will not count it as submission to their devil-god.

As you noted, they are a cult. And their so-called "god" is some pagan deriviative of moon worship. These people are living in the 7th century. Westerners cannot even IMAGINE. We see things through the prism of what is REAL civilization, of the Enlightenment, of God's son and our savior, Jesus, of the rule of law and justice. (Greeks, Romans, Saxons, the Magna Carta, the Reformation, the Enlightenment, John Locke and Thomas Hobbs and on and on and on---PEOPLE: LOOK at US; then look at THEM, the islams. It is nothing short of frightening.)

These people have another paradigm entirely. The sooner we realize that, the better. Some people are in denial, I realize, because the lack the vision to see beyond their own lifetimes and life experience. The mohammedans once advanced far into Europe in their unending and still proceeding drive for world domination, to either 1) convert, 2) kill, or 3) enslave the rest of the world. It took CENTURIES to drive them back. The 20th century was a respite in their quest, licking their wounds from centuries of warmaking.

As D-Dubya-S said, it is a cult that will have to be removed from the face of the earth. Being nice, capitulation, Neville-Chamberlinism, retrenchment, appeasement---these are things---and WE must understand this---that THEY will ever understand.

40 posted on 02/07/2002 7:00:53 AM PST by gg188
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