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To: gg188
"...OUR lifetimes are the historical anomoly vis-a-vis Islam--a lull after the defeat of the Ottoman Turks early in the 20th century and before the terrorism of the last half of the century. People had better take a broader view of history than just their own little window or time-frame..."

Exactly right.

The struggle with the thralls of 'allah' is going to continue until one of two things happens...

It's going to continue until we bend our knees to their demonic 'god', or until we cleanse the world of their malignant cult.

I don't know about you, but those alien bastards will have to break my knees to bend them...

And, if they do that, the AUTHENTIC God in Heaven will not count it as submission to their devil-god.

29 posted on 02/07/2002 3:33:13 AM PST by DWSUWF
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To: DWSUWF
It's going to continue until we bend our knees to their demonic 'god', or until we cleanse the world of their malignant cult.

Yes, and it isn't racist wackos who are saying that---it's mainstream historians and authors at places like Harvard and Yale. That's what makes me amazed that posters get on here and say the things they say. There's a famous book, "The Clash of Civlizations," written four years ago, (on the COVER of the book is the WORLD TRADE CENTER, incidentally), and it and others point out that the world's defining forces are not opposing polities but rather CIVILIZATIONS, i.e., Western civilization versus the 13-century-long, ceaseless advance of the bloodthirsty hegemonic forces of the mohammedans.

In OUR lifetimes, we may vaguely remember a few pages about the Moors in a history class, for example, but the century in which we lived most of our lives was a time when the forces of good had to face down the forces of communism and nazism and Japanese imperialism. But these were just bumps in the road of history; centuries before, and centuries after, we---the civilized, Godly and righteous people of the world---must face down an enemy a thousand times bigger, stronger, and more determined, than marxists or the nazis. This enemy's oath to exterminate us springs not just from their ideology, but from their core "religious" belief. This enemy is the cult of mohammed, the moonworshipping heathuns.

I don't know about you, but those alien bastards will have to break my knees to bend them... And, if they do that, the AUTHENTIC God in Heaven will not count it as submission to their devil-god.

As you noted, they are a cult. And their so-called "god" is some pagan deriviative of moon worship. These people are living in the 7th century. Westerners cannot even IMAGINE. We see things through the prism of what is REAL civilization, of the Enlightenment, of God's son and our savior, Jesus, of the rule of law and justice. (Greeks, Romans, Saxons, the Magna Carta, the Reformation, the Enlightenment, John Locke and Thomas Hobbs and on and on and on---PEOPLE: LOOK at US; then look at THEM, the islams. It is nothing short of frightening.)

These people have another paradigm entirely. The sooner we realize that, the better. Some people are in denial, I realize, because the lack the vision to see beyond their own lifetimes and life experience. The mohammedans once advanced far into Europe in their unending and still proceeding drive for world domination, to either 1) convert, 2) kill, or 3) enslave the rest of the world. It took CENTURIES to drive them back. The 20th century was a respite in their quest, licking their wounds from centuries of warmaking.

As D-Dubya-S said, it is a cult that will have to be removed from the face of the earth. Being nice, capitulation, Neville-Chamberlinism, retrenchment, appeasement---these are things---and WE must understand this---that THEY will ever understand.

40 posted on 02/07/2002 7:00:53 AM PST by gg188
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To: DWSUWF
It is going to continue, until we bend our knees, or until we cleanse the world of their malignant cult Rarely is an idea put into words, that so closely matches my own. This is the challenge of our time, I think the case is clear. The test has been written, and put in front of the self professed Christian nations. Is your God worth standing up for, or is he just a convenience, and a collection tool for charities. Islam has declared war on Christianity, Judaism and all others, do the nations pooh pooh over this, or fight?
67 posted on 02/22/2002 12:12:38 PM PST by jeremiah
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