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An Astounding Remark
Future of Freedom Foundation ^ | Sheldon Richman

Posted on 02/06/2002 5:05:45 AM PST by francisandbeans

When Attorney General John Ashcroft told the nation, "To those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty, my message is this: Your tactics only aid terrorists," he wasn't blazing any new trails. He was merely doing what despots and would-be despots always do: attempting to intimidate into silence those who dare to question him.

Ashcroft's statement is one of the most astounding things to be said by a U.S. official in many years. To read it carefully — letting its full message sink in — is to be overtaken by a sense of horror that is otherwise hard to imagine. Every American should be offended to hear the government's chief law enforcement officer equate public expressions of concern about the threats to liberty from drastic "anti-terrorism" measures with joining al-Qaeda. Does Ashcroft have such a low estimate of the American people's intelligence?

Perhaps he needs to become acquainted with Thomas Jefferson. It was Jefferson who said, "The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground." That's true in the best of times. It's doubly true during war — especially an Orwellian undeclared, open-ended crusade against an enemy as nebulous as "international terrorism." Ashcroft is a perfect Orwellian character. In 1984, Big Brother told his people that "freedom is slavery." It follows that slavery is freedom. Ashcroft refuses to concede that the Bush administration is seeking to curtail liberty in the least. Those who see diminished liberty must be hallucinating, seeing "phantoms of lost liberty."

So when the president unilaterally abolishes due process for noncitizens, we are only imaging an erosion of liberty. And when Congress passes, without even reading, the administration's alleged anti-terrorism bill, which expands the government's powers of surveillance, permits secret searches of homes, and weakens judicial oversight of law enforcement, again, we are deluded if we think freedom is evaporating. I write "alleged anti-terrorism bill" because the new law does not restrict the expanded powers to suspected terrorists, but applies them to any criminal activity. This is a classic power grab under the cover of an emergency. September 11 has given policymakers a chance to bring down from the shelf every new police power they have wanted for years. They assume no one will question the need for such broad powers, and if anyone does, they can shut him up by portraying him as an ally of the terrorists. The game is rigged in favor of power.

It is no comfort that the erosion of liberty in the name of fighting terrorism has a bipartisan cast to it. Democratic Senator Charles Schumer of New York has given his blessing to oppressive government with an op-ed in the Washington Post titled "Big Government Looks Better Now." As Schumer puts it, barely concealing his glee, "For the foreseeable future, the federal government will have to grow... The era of a shrinking federal government has come to a close." Of course, the senator was trying to enlarge it long before September 11.

Schumer insists that only the federal government "has the breadth, strength and resources" to keep us secure. Forgive me for asking, but did we not have a federal government on September 11? Was it not in charge of our security on that date? Then what is the senator talking about? And if it isn't impolite to ask, just where does the federal government get all those resources? Last time I checked, it didn't produce anything. It simply took resources from the people who did produce them.

Once we understand that all government possesses is the power of legal plunder our whole perspective changes. Schumer insists that "the notion of letting a thousand different ideas compete and flourish — which works so well to create goods and services — does not work at all in the face of a national security emergency. Unity of action and purpose is required, and only the federal government can provide it." But he’s got it wrong. Security is a service. Competition and innovation are valuable in the effort to keep ourselves safe. The last thing we need is central planning. That’s what we had on September 11.


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To: Mojo-jo-jo
If you dont like this country....then get the HELL out! Lets Roll!

Sorry, doesn't work that way.If you don't like this country, work for change. Which is exactly what many are doing despite the objection of the sheep.

121 posted on 02/06/2002 6:50:13 AM PST by AUgrad
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To: unsycophant
for the record, I have seen threads reach 150 posts before being pulled.

;)

122 posted on 02/06/2002 6:50:24 AM PST by francisandbeans
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To: Howlin
"mock the people who are trying to SAVE our freedom, whether they find the best path the first time or not."

Sort of like destroying the village in order to save it?

By the time your leaders get done with saving us from the TERRORISTS, I'm going to have a hard time telling the difference.
123 posted on 02/06/2002 6:52:27 AM PST by Scarlet Pimpernel
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To: NC_Libertarian
Not a dime's worth of difference between the ACLU and Libertarians on FR.

It's amazing what you can hallucinate on acid. Reality need never intrude.

124 posted on 02/06/2002 6:53:54 AM PST by jimt
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To: jla
A red herring in my opinion.

Yeah, why bother reading something before voting on it?

Exactly then what would Ashcroft's critics do to successfully and expeditiously investigate and root out suspected terrorist and criminal adversaries of America?

Focus their existing powers on real threats rather than on political harassment (e.g. Clinton's tax audits, etc) and minor issues (e.g. Clinton's directive to move resources from anti-terrorism investigation to copyright enforcement).

125 posted on 02/06/2002 6:54:07 AM PST by steve-b
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To: francisandbeans
Obviously all of the comics aren't in the newspapers. Why don't you join your commie friends on CNN?
126 posted on 02/06/2002 6:54:11 AM PST by hgro
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To: Scarlet Pimpernel
At least I have some leaders in office, something that you all haven't been able to do. Does that tell you something? Why aren't you able to make your points to enough people to get somebody elected, if you're so right about everything?

We can't ALL be stupider than you are.

127 posted on 02/06/2002 6:56:30 AM PST by Howlin
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To: SteamshipTime
Actually, I don't want to fly on a plane if YOU'RE carrying.
128 posted on 02/06/2002 6:57:48 AM PST by Howlin
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To: unsycophant
Perhaps somebody is having some fun this morning.
129 posted on 02/06/2002 6:59:00 AM PST by Howlin
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To: skeeter
IMO Ashcroft isn't "quashing" anyone. He's simply rendering an opinion.

Nope. An "opinion" expressed by the Attorney General has an obvious influence on all federal law enforcement personnel. In this case it influences them to give less weight to civil liberties issues than the law requires.

Frankly, this defense implies that Ashcroft's statement is a cowardly means of giving a directive without taking responsibility for any subsequent results, a la Henry II's "Will no friend rid me of this troublesome priest?"

130 posted on 02/06/2002 6:59:25 AM PST by steve-b
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To: hgro
ugh...

A hex on you:

May you be accused of a crime you didn't commit.

131 posted on 02/06/2002 6:59:48 AM PST by francisandbeans
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To: francisandbeans
I’m afraid I have to agree with Howlin and say that you are judging by your feelings for Ashcroft in general and not by the statement itself. There is nothing here that squashes dissent in the least. I see it merely as a statement of opinion by the Attorney General. If you don't agree, keep on dissenting!

Where are the threats of arrest or seizure of media assets that would be an actual attempt to squash dissent? Is it not possible that the people who decry the treatment of detainees in Cuba are trying to build false sympathy for the terrorists? I don’t agree with all of Ashcroft’s decisions or statements, and the drape thing was embarrassing, but I’m not going to lose any sleep over this quote, thank you very much.

132 posted on 02/06/2002 7:02:08 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: francisandbeans
Those who would be willing to sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither.
133 posted on 02/06/2002 7:02:34 AM PST by Gargantua
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We can't ALL be stupider than you are.

Sorry, someone's got to be in the botton 95th Percentile of Intelligence. Its not your fault. Its genetics.

134 posted on 02/06/2002 7:03:00 AM PST by Loopy
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To: Mojo-jo-jo

136 posted on 02/06/2002 7:07:09 AM PST by NC_Libertarian
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To: francisandbeans; Jim Robinson
After this comment, can John Ashcroft be exempt from the "no smearing" rule?

I think that no public official should be exempt from smearing, including Ol' Beaver-Face Ashcroft. His opinion of opponents of the USSA-Patriot-in-Name-Only act probably makes Janet Reno hot.

137 posted on 02/06/2002 7:07:14 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Dick Bachert
This thread is just the "dopers" hope that they can buy, sell, and trip, break the law, and just demonize John Ashcroft. All so that they can be "legal". Give your name and addresses so that you can be reported.
138 posted on 02/06/2002 7:07:37 AM PST by Blake#1
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To: SoCal Pubbie
You will notice that not once, did I ever accuse Ashcroft of aiding terrorists. His statement accused me of that. From minute one, all I have ever said about the war on terror is that we need to be careful not to ignore the Constitution. Keep a watchful eye of sorts. Then he uses the popularity of the war effort as a means to associate those who think we may be crossing a line with personal liberties with terrorists. He could just say we are wrong. Or that we are over-reacting. But to tell us we are aiding terrorists is over the line.
139 posted on 02/06/2002 7:07:54 AM PST by francisandbeans
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To: Hoosier Patriot
I hit the abuse button on your post 50 times, once for each state in this great union, in a symbolic gesture of my disgust at your audacity to make such a statement in this time of war.

THIS one almost had me howlin', if you'll excuse the pun < g >

140 posted on 02/06/2002 7:10:11 AM PST by Jefferson Adams
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