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An Astounding Remark
Future of Freedom Foundation ^ | Sheldon Richman

Posted on 02/06/2002 5:05:45 AM PST by francisandbeans

When Attorney General John Ashcroft told the nation, "To those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty, my message is this: Your tactics only aid terrorists," he wasn't blazing any new trails. He was merely doing what despots and would-be despots always do: attempting to intimidate into silence those who dare to question him.

Ashcroft's statement is one of the most astounding things to be said by a U.S. official in many years. To read it carefully — letting its full message sink in — is to be overtaken by a sense of horror that is otherwise hard to imagine. Every American should be offended to hear the government's chief law enforcement officer equate public expressions of concern about the threats to liberty from drastic "anti-terrorism" measures with joining al-Qaeda. Does Ashcroft have such a low estimate of the American people's intelligence?

Perhaps he needs to become acquainted with Thomas Jefferson. It was Jefferson who said, "The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground." That's true in the best of times. It's doubly true during war — especially an Orwellian undeclared, open-ended crusade against an enemy as nebulous as "international terrorism." Ashcroft is a perfect Orwellian character. In 1984, Big Brother told his people that "freedom is slavery." It follows that slavery is freedom. Ashcroft refuses to concede that the Bush administration is seeking to curtail liberty in the least. Those who see diminished liberty must be hallucinating, seeing "phantoms of lost liberty."

So when the president unilaterally abolishes due process for noncitizens, we are only imaging an erosion of liberty. And when Congress passes, without even reading, the administration's alleged anti-terrorism bill, which expands the government's powers of surveillance, permits secret searches of homes, and weakens judicial oversight of law enforcement, again, we are deluded if we think freedom is evaporating. I write "alleged anti-terrorism bill" because the new law does not restrict the expanded powers to suspected terrorists, but applies them to any criminal activity. This is a classic power grab under the cover of an emergency. September 11 has given policymakers a chance to bring down from the shelf every new police power they have wanted for years. They assume no one will question the need for such broad powers, and if anyone does, they can shut him up by portraying him as an ally of the terrorists. The game is rigged in favor of power.

It is no comfort that the erosion of liberty in the name of fighting terrorism has a bipartisan cast to it. Democratic Senator Charles Schumer of New York has given his blessing to oppressive government with an op-ed in the Washington Post titled "Big Government Looks Better Now." As Schumer puts it, barely concealing his glee, "For the foreseeable future, the federal government will have to grow... The era of a shrinking federal government has come to a close." Of course, the senator was trying to enlarge it long before September 11.

Schumer insists that only the federal government "has the breadth, strength and resources" to keep us secure. Forgive me for asking, but did we not have a federal government on September 11? Was it not in charge of our security on that date? Then what is the senator talking about? And if it isn't impolite to ask, just where does the federal government get all those resources? Last time I checked, it didn't produce anything. It simply took resources from the people who did produce them.

Once we understand that all government possesses is the power of legal plunder our whole perspective changes. Schumer insists that "the notion of letting a thousand different ideas compete and flourish — which works so well to create goods and services — does not work at all in the face of a national security emergency. Unity of action and purpose is required, and only the federal government can provide it." But he’s got it wrong. Security is a service. Competition and innovation are valuable in the effort to keep ourselves safe. The last thing we need is central planning. That’s what we had on September 11.


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To: d14truth
but because his 'walk' matches his 'talk'.

You forgot the sarcasm off, I hope. If not get help soon

101 posted on 02/06/2002 6:34:09 AM PST by steve50
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To: francisandbeans
And don't even try to say that I am running away because I can't make my point.

People who talk about freedom and breasts in the same sentence hardly have a valid point, other than having their own personal agenda.

102 posted on 02/06/2002 6:34:44 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
It's sad really Howlin. I though you had the intellect to overcome your love affair with the letter R. I guess I was wrong. At some point, I hope you are able to see people for who they are and not for what you think they are.
103 posted on 02/06/2002 6:36:00 AM PST by francisandbeans
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To: francisandbeans
If you dont like this country....then get the HELL out! Lets Roll!
104 posted on 02/06/2002 6:36:01 AM PST by Mojo-jo-jo
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To: francisandbeans
This is a year old story, but bears retelling for all who stupidly believe in "equal justice."

Intervention by Ashcroft -- whom I actually respect -- or no, having the RIGHT last name DOES make a difference.

A member of MY family did 2 months in jail when a cop found a 3 month old roach in the ashtray of a car he was driving. First offense. And, no, I don't even smoke cigarettes.

By Daniel Forbes
Jan. 12, 2001 | The nephew of Attorney General-designate John Ashcroft received probation after a felony conviction in state court for growing 60 marijuana plants with intent to distribute the drug in 1992 -- a lenient sentence, given that the charges against him often trigger much tougher federal penalties and jail time. Ashcroft was the tough-on-drugs Missouri governor at the time.

Alex Ashcroft, then 25, and his brother Adam, 19, were arrested and charged with production and possession of marijuana after police raided their home in January, 1992. A housemate, Kevin Sheely, then 24, was also arrested. Officials said approximately 60 marijuana plants were found growing in a basement crawl space, and a lighting, irrigation and security system was also discovered.

Although growing more than 50 plants often triggers federal prosecution, and results in jail time -- thanks to federal mandatory minimum sentencing laws Ashcroft fought to toughen as senator -- Alex Ashcroft was prosecuted on a state charge and received probation. His brother Adam did not live in the house and was never prosecuted.

According to Sheely's lawyer, Dan Viets, who practices in Columbia, Mo., Ashcroft tested positive for drugs during his first post-probation drug test, yet still remained free.

"As I recall it, in his first month on probation, Alex had a positive urine test," Viets said. He asserted he has spoken to someone who has recently seen documentary evidence of the failed test.

Reached for comment, Alex Ashcroft's father Bob first denied that his son had failed a urine test, then said, "Anything's possible." Asked about the failed urine test, Alex's mother, Beverly Ashcroft, told Salon, "I have no idea. That's such an upsetting time, it's all a little foggy."

Ashcroft was sentenced to three years in the Missouri Department of Correction for a class C felony involving more than 35 grams of marijuana. The sentence was suspended, and he was placed on probation for three years and sentenced to 100 hours of community service, which he served.

Ashcroft's parents point out that Sheely, who went before a different judge, received even lighter treatment. Sheely's records are sealed, and all Viets would say is that his client was officially "not convicted." Bob Ashcroft says, "The prosecutor was from the other side of the aisle. He did everything he could to prosecute my son." His mother, Beverly, adds, "I think the facts are clear that his uncle as governor certainly did not bail Alex out."

105 posted on 02/06/2002 6:36:38 AM PST by Dick Bachert
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To: Mojo-jo-jo
LOL
106 posted on 02/06/2002 6:36:55 AM PST by francisandbeans
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To: Howlin
The WTC attacks could have been prevented by the simple expedient of honoring citizens' right to keep and bear arms. Instead, we gave the federal government complete responsibility for securing our safety, with horrific results. And here you want to give these people even more money and power. Do you realize that Bush lost the popular vote? If the Democrats gain control of both the legislative and executive branches, will you not regret cheering for these expanded powers?
107 posted on 02/06/2002 6:37:15 AM PST by SteamshipTime
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To: Dick Bachert; howlin
Here is your man, Howlin.

Please bask in his glory.

108 posted on 02/06/2002 6:38:50 AM PST by francisandbeans
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To: francisandbeans
At some point, I hope you are able to see people for who they are and not for what you think they are.

You mean I'm wrong because I don't agree with you? You'll have to excuse me if I don't take your advice in how to pick candidates.

Besides, if we ALL came over to your side, who on earth would you tell you're better and smarter than they are?

109 posted on 02/06/2002 6:38:56 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Dick Bachert
I've been looking for that story for months, thanks
111 posted on 02/06/2002 6:39:49 AM PST by steve50
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To: francisandbeans
I agree with you statement, but ashcroft is using a very broad brush here to quash anyone who speaks of liberties.

Ordinarily I'd be sympathetic to the (little l) libertarian side here, but the kind of hyperbole in your above statement makes taking you seriously very difficult.

IMO Ashcroft isn't "quashing" anyone. He's simply rendering an opinion. And I haven't seen anyone offer any real proof he's wrong. ACLU's recent activities re: the El Quaeda prison in Cuba spring to mind.

112 posted on 02/06/2002 6:40:26 AM PST by skeeter
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To: D Joyce
And you'd know that how?
113 posted on 02/06/2002 6:41:19 AM PST by Howlin
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To: francisandbeans
So when the president unilaterally abolishes due process for noncitizens, we are only imaging an erosion of liberty.

I wasn't aware that non citizens were afforded the same rights as citizens in the Constitution. Please correct me if I'm wrong here.

And when Congress passes, without even reading, the administration's alleged anti-terrorism bill, which expands the government's powers of surveillance, permits secret searches of homes, and weakens judicial oversight of law enforcement, again, we are deluded if we think freedom is evaporating.

A red herring in my opinion.
Exactly then what would Ashcroft's critics do to successfully and expeditiously investigate and root out suspected terrorist and criminal adversaries of America?

114 posted on 02/06/2002 6:42:27 AM PST by jla
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To: skeeter
somewhere in this thread there are statements by his staff, which to me represent the mindset of the office. This statement is quashing dissent, and I'm sorry if you can't agree with that, but in effect it has to be what he wants accomplished, why else would he say it?
115 posted on 02/06/2002 6:42:43 AM PST by francisandbeans
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To: SteamshipTime
Are you a felon? Most people I know have guns. Why can't you have one?
116 posted on 02/06/2002 6:43:25 AM PST by Howlin
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To: skeeter
Further, I would sonner eat my own testicles than let the ACLU be the standard bearer of my liberties.
117 posted on 02/06/2002 6:44:22 AM PST by francisandbeans
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To: borkrules
I agree with you.
118 posted on 02/06/2002 6:44:39 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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To: Howlin
Try carrying your sidearm onto an airliner. Even if you're the one flying the damn thing.

And thanks for your response. I can see you put a lot of thought into it.

119 posted on 02/06/2002 6:47:32 AM PST by SteamshipTime
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To: Howlin
I thought the current refrain from all the whiny crybabies is that anything NOT pro-GOP is being pulled, and all non-GOP'ers are being automatically banned at Free Republic.

This thread doesn't help make the case.

120 posted on 02/06/2002 6:49:20 AM PST by unsycophant
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