[doosee]

I would really like to see W begin the war on Taxes as a corrollary to the war on Terrorism. It looks like a lot of people (50,000) are going to be in for the audit from hell. I like Bill O'Reilly but I hope he gets picked so I can hear his rants on the telly.

[xzins]

Despite all the arguments of all the opponents about revenue, efficacy, etc., the NATIONAL RETAIL SALES TAX remains the MOST FAIR AND LEAST INTRUSIVE idea for taxation, period.

For this reason alone, it should be instituted.

[Libertarian_4_eva]

I would really like to see W begin the war on Taxes as a corrollary to the war on Terrorism. It looks like a lot of people (50,000) are going to be in for the audit from hell. I like Bill O'Reilly but I hope he gets picked so I can hear his rants on the telly.

Bush is a liberal republican and is for more spending and you know that more spending means more taxes. He called for congress to restrain itself however we all know now that bush is for more spending they will go hog wild.

[max61]

Our system of taxation is a symptom, it is not the problem. The problem is the largesse and expanse of the Federal Government. Taxation is the fuel which allows government to expand. The method of taxation is irrelavent.

---max

[blackdog]

The whole reason underlying in the Enron mess, Global, etc... is because of out tax code. Armies of auditors trying to hide revenues, shift losses, playing shell games in order to work around our tax code.

[Beenliedto]

I would really like to see W begin the war on Taxes as a corrollary to the war on Terrorism.

The war on terrorism acts to increse the power of government (the state).

Your proposed war on taxes would act to decrease the power of government (the state).

It is axiomatic that "the state" tends to act in such a way as to increase its own power

Thus, it is doubtful that such a war will ever take place.

[verity]

"One day, income tax system has got to go"

It will occur on the same day the author flies by flapping his arms!

[Jhoffa_]

I would like to see a flat tax myself..

If 10% is enough for God, it should be plenty for Uncle FedGov.

[3catsanadog]

The IRS is the American version of the KGB. Our government is adverse to picking citizens at random and brutally torturing them, so they apply a financial punishment to keep the peasants in line.

We really need a coordinated grass roots group like the gays and blacks have done to get countrywide support for tax changes. Peaceful protests at IRS offices on 4/15 every year and at the post offices.

I agree with the sales tax idea. It's time Suzy Prostitute and Johnny Drug Dealer pay their fare share.

Let's start writing (not emailing - they never read emails because there are too many) our Congressmen - the ones who continue to vote themselves 50,000 dollar raises every other year.

Start counting up all the little taxes on your utility bills and add that to property, real estate, state and local taxes and you'll find yourself paying half your income in taxes. I'm so fed up with it all.

[reg45]

I hope it goes away for a lot longer than one day.

[TheRedSoxWinThePennant]

MY DREAM IS THAT TRUE CONSERVATIVES TAKE CONGRESS AND BUSH PUT STEVE FORBES AS TREASURY SEC

[Paulus Invictus]

I agree, the IRS needs to disappear and a new tax system emplaced. As a struggling small businessman, I spend far too much time and effort trying to stay ahead of all the tax forms, incomprehensible rulings and nasty IRS people. They are the new SS, above the law and a constant threat to the law-abiding. They let the biggest crooks like those that ran Enron and Global Crossings get away with a slap on the wrist plus all their winnings stashed away safely in foreign banks. It's a disgusting system.

[SwankyC]

I believe he once said he's been audited every year under Clinton

[ableChair]

I agree that a sales tax is by far the best way to go, for many reasons. But there is a reason why no politician would ever support it. Taxing that way means that every citizen, rich and poor, will see, in deed, exactly how much they are being taxed every time they buy something. It would be a daily reminder of the theft to which they are subject. By calculating the total revenue from income taxes, then comparing that to the GDP, one can see that something like twenty cents on every dollar, in federal sales tax alone, would be required to maintain revenue levels. Think about that. Most people would end up paying about thirty to forty cents on every dollar spent from local, state and federal sales tax! The outcry would be unbearable for the politicians. The income tax system, combined with federal withholding taxes, is a way of concealing the severity of the confiscatory scheme from most Americans.

[Brad C.]

After the big uproar from Newt and his buddies, didn't they pass legislation that said the income tax code would end on some specific date? I see if I can find it elsewhere.

[Brad C.]

Yes indeed they did vote to repeal the tax code:

5. Tax Code Termination. (Roll Call #127, 13 April) The House voted to abolish the current tax code, except for Social Security and Medicare, by Dec. 31, 2004. YES was a vote FOR taxpayers.

Back in the second session of the 106th.

[2Trievers]

FYI, sir!

[scripter]

It looks like a lot of people (50,000) are going to be in for the audit from hell. I like Bill O'Reilly but I hope he gets picked so I can hear his rants on the telly.

I was watching O'Reilly during the Clinton administration and O'Reilly was complaining about being audited. I think he said he was audited 3 years in a row, and if it happened another successive time, he was going to do something about it. If true, he's had his share of audits!

[Mr. K]

EXCELLENT IDEA (equating it to the war on terrorsim)

I just finished doing my taxes- 75 pages long, and it is MIND BOGGLING the complexity and idiocy of this system!!

Listening to the start of the superbowl it occurred to me that the original declaration of independance would apply equally well to the people today against our OWN govt...

[Dick Bachert]

THERE IS SOMETHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. IT'S CALLED THE NATIONAL RETAIL SALES TAX. GET ON BOARD IF YOU WANT TO END THIS ANNUAL INSANITY!

[Willie Green]

Controversial, yes, but much, much easier to collect, mainly at store counters.

Since when do people buy new homes at a store counter?

Posing as "tax reform", the NRST (HR 2525) also represents a "land grab" where business interests are favored over individuals purchasing for their own use:

• A family purchasing their own new home for $200,000 pays NRST at a tax-included 23% rate. This means that of the $200,000 paid, $154,000 goes to the seller, and the Gov't receives $46,000 in tax.

• A landlord/investor can exploit the business exemption of NRST and purchase the same new single family dwelling tax free as a rental investment for only $154,000. Tenants pay NRST on rent and Landlords act as tax collectors for the government

• The $154,000 vs. $200,000 purchase price advantage that landlord/investors enjoy over individual personal homebuyers can be expressed two ways:
  • Landlord/investors enjoy a 23% discount compared to the individual personal home buyer.

  • Individual personal home buyers must pay 29.87% more than landlord/investors.

This a significant inequity between individuals trying to buy their own new homes and landord/investors looking to buy the same single family dwelling as a rental investment. This disparity has long term implications affecting the distribution of private property. The American tradition favoring individual property rights is reversed. The NRST would discourage individual "consumption" of real property.

"... legislators cannot invent too many devices for subdividing property, only taking care to let their subdivisions go hand in hand with the natural affections of the human mind. The descent of property of every kind therefore to all the children,...

But it is not too soon to provide by every possible means that as few as possible shall be without a little portion of land. The small landholders are the most precious part of a state."

-- Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, Oct. 28, 1785 -- PROPERTY AND NATURAL RIGHT

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"A home is NOT an investment, W/G, but merely a place to live."

Posted on 03/26/2001 16:27:50 PST by pigdog

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To: pigdog, Willie Green

It's amazing how many people view a home as an "asset," as well. It's a frickin' LIABILITY.

90 Posted on 06/29/2001 09:45:01 PDT by Poohbah

What a sham!!!