George Bush's Big Government Adventure

Free Republic and Various ^ | 01-30-02 | aaabest

[AAABEST]

With Conservative Like This, Who Needs Liberals?

Let me start off by addressing those who have been bashing(and I do mean bash) me and other well intentioned and well known Freepers as being anti-Bush, Libertarians, from the reform party or whatever. 

I voted for GWB, and I can ping several freepers to this thread that met me in real life at several Bush rallies (with megaphone in hand). I was a member of the Broward County Young Republicans before moving to the West coast of Florida and I was active in Jeb Bush's campaign for Governor. 

I've been on this forum for almost 4 years and anyone that knows me is aware of my conservative views and knows that I'm not a member of the reform party, I'm not a Libertarian (large "l") or any of the other things I and others like me have been accused of.

If you have been engaging in inflammatory rhetoric, bashing long-time, well known Freepers or acting like children because not all of us are enthralled with "Georges Big Government Adventure",  please try to control yourselves, at least while posting on this thread. 

It's not my purpose (at least at this point) to get GWB un-elected, I like him, he has a beautiful wife, he's a good Commander in Chief and he seems like an honest politician. However,  if he keeps ignoring conservative principles and promoting a larger more intrusive government, I and others can no longer continue to support him....on principle. 

We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America.

Above is the Free Republic mission statement.  After his first year, would anyone say that GWB has worked towards this end? I think many conservatives suffer from some kind of Stockholm Syndrome as a result of 8 years of President Clinton, because when I ask many of them what GWB has done for conservatism lately, all I get is that he's not Clinton. 

I know he's not a corrupt, law breaking scoundrel, but is that all that's required? Can our republic survive a cycle where Republicans get into office grow government greatly, interspersed with Democrats who grow government even more greatly with little or no reduction? There are actually people on FR that think all of this growth in government spending is some grandiose 8 year plan by Mr. Bush to fool Democrats so that he can cut government later. What an absurd notion.

If any of the initiatives below originated from the Clinton administration, people on FR would have had a cow. Those "Day in the Life of President Bush" threads garner hundreds of fawning responses, while a thread on how our government is growing out of control will die after 10.

I appeal to anyone reading this to consider the below information without bias. The links will open in a separate window for you convenience.  I will be adding to this information as necessary God bless America, God bless this forum and God bless you.

Click on the Picture of the President (thinking of new ways grow government) for the corresponding article.

	Huge education spending bill (i.e. Federal Local School Board Bribery Act) which liberal Democrats love that doesn't mention a word about choice or local control.
	Food stamps for immigrants.
	Largest spending bill in American History. The first to exceed 2 trillion dollars.
	The Airport Security Bill that completely takes control of over 28,000 screening jobs. Now it seems that they don't even have to be high school graduates either. The big difference, they can't be fired.
	100 million for welfare moms.
	Hugely Expanding Clinton's Amercorps boondoggle that all conservatives railed against.
	Kowtowing to law breaking illegal immigrants by proposing amnesty. Speaking of illegal immigrants who sneak across the border; "And we've got to respect that, seems like to me, and treat those people with respect," he added. "I remind people all across our country: Family values do not stop at the border."
.	38 Billion for a new Homeland Security bureaucracy that allots a 20% increase for border control. Guess what. It goes to our problematic Canadian border, with not a dollar spent on the Mexican border. Read it for yourself
	The  Orwellian "Patriot Act" that gives Federal authorities carte blanche to rifle through all of your digital communications and essentially,  rob your house without notice.
	71.5 billion over 10 years for government health care.
	Not releasing appropriate documents on Clinton and FBI corruption.

 

[ridensm]

And goodbye

[Southack]

Again, what you cite are examples of enjoying rights, not losing them. You got to protest. Gee, you didn't get your perfect spot (perhaps inside a government building, inside that cute girl's house, or in front of traffic on a road - gosh, could there be places where your right to protest fails to override the rights of others to enjoy their own lives by driving, walking, enjoying privacy, et al??).

It's also no trouble to get an automatic weapon. Pay your Class 3 tax and enjoy blowing lots of money on ammo. One of my employees came over here from India. He was THRILLED when he bought his first machine gun. "I love America!" he shouted to me. He can't own one of these weapons in India. The difference in freedom is amazing.

Perhaps you just haven't figured it out, but you haven't been denied any rights. That's why it is so difficult for you to come up with a SINGLE example of such.

[NoCurrentFreeperByThatName]

ping

[eskimo]

Those "Day in the Life of President Bush" threads garner hundreds of fawning responses, while a thread on how our government is growing out of control will die after 10.

Haven't looked at one of those threads lately but they used to be filled by only a few groupies each contributing several examples of what appeared to be nothing more than gratuitous celebrity worship.

[NoCurrentFreeperByThatName]

Great post!

Thanks for the flag, tex-oma.

[MeekOneGOP]

Judge GWB after he has served eight years.

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Dittos from Texas!
PS: Happy FReepin' anniversary, btw! ! ! FOUR years with FR today. . .

[BlackbirdSST]

I'm hoping we can do something about it. Am I wrong? For the sake of this Republic, we had better come up with an alternative. The speed which we are moving to pure socialism is gaining. I voted for W, that was called Hope. It's wearing real thin these day's. Blackbird.

[BlackbirdSST]

Apparently in your world, that means that not one part of government was downsized. OK, so in your world, besides a tax cut and your lack of economics understanding, and in an attempt to match your arrogance, what gubmint agency has been downsized? In the leftist tone, how did W "Pay" for his tax cuts? It's all rhetoric from you. Where did you get your talking points? Blackbird.

[BlackbirdSST]

Ok, so the defeatist would say, it could be worse, and you would be right. Does this mean everything is AOK? Hardly. The following is only a suggestion, you should consider changing your screen name to Texasforafewmoremonths, because if things continue as promised with our southern border, your beloved state will be no more. Get in before the rush. Blackbird.

[BlackbirdSST]

I have become concerned about the extreme minority position the malcontents occupy here and wondered if it might be better for you at this place. Spend some time in reality Ben. Criticism isn't bashing, don't like it, perhaps you would be more at home there. They don't allow debate either. They don't live in reality either. You'll fit right in. What about the FR mission statement don't you understand? Blackbird.

[MeekOneGOP]

Yes, I would. . . . . .

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I followed a lot of the dialog stemming from your post there. Excellent comments and defense of it. I could learn a lot from you I think. Thanks.

[MeekOneGOP]

Bump

[RJCogburn]

Good comments, but.....

GWB has done pretty much what he told us he would during the campaign so it should come as no surprise. He was a "compassionate" conservative, he was going to spend a zillion more dollars on education, etc...

I had hoped that, if elected, he would appoint an AG who might pursue justice in the matter of the criminal corruption of the Clinton gang. I had no realistic expection that the Clintons themselves would come to justice, but hoped that some of the others might. Burton had even said prior to the election that if there were a Republican AG, he might make referrals from his committee for consideration for prosecution.

Well, you know what has happened.....not only do Bush/Ashcroft disband the campaign finance task force, but they even refuse to release information as to how decisions were made under Reno not to proceed. Corruption at the highest level of our government is ignored, covered over, just movin' on.

This is the real sad part, at least for me.

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!

[RJCogburn]

If you do not want to support Bush, who are you going to support?

Good question, Jim. I guess the answer is someone who believes in justice. See my #393.

Regards.

[jaime1959]

Great post. In the view of many on this forum, you can't be a *real* conservative unless you're a Republican, although, you do see many complaints about RINOS. Well, GWB sure looks like a RINO to me.

[AAABEST]

You haven't got a clue. Let me guess, you are 19 years old, right?

Uh, no. I didn't log on to FR when I was 15.

As a matter of fact, I was fighting a war about 11 years ago while you were probably sitting at home making silly assumtions while having zero facts.

But thanks for asking.

[AAABEST]

over and over again until I was bashed so hard I almost left here for good

Don't ever give in to defeat, ever. Hit back as hard as you know how.

[Dane]

Good morning AAA, how do you feel about being snookered by the AP as described to you in reply #221.

That's of course if you were actually "snookered" and not deliberately misleading.