[Jhoffa_]

Exactly, screen names aside, I am not a union goon.. I hate unions in fact.

And when employers complain: "The market should determine Minimum Wage" I completely agree. No Problem.

But then, when you ask them: "So the market should also determine how much you have to pay to retain help.. right?"

Their answer is to load the pool of potential employees with illegals, stifle competition and drive wages down.

So, on the one hand they want me to compete for my wage.. Fine.

But they don't want to have to compete for my labor, cause that's wrong somehow.

[DoughtyOne]

I'm with you. I'm no union man by any means. But I try to be fair. I don't think everything the corporations do is bad. I don't think everything they do is good.

Capitalism is good. But allowing anything and everything in the name of capitalism is bad. Issues have to be judged on their merits. I believe in a free enterprize system within markets. But when you open those same tools to international markets, you can destroy the free nation in the quest for the mystical pot-o-gold at the end of the capitalist rainbow. To allow our workers to have compete with a nation paying it's employees cents per hour, is just plain lunacy as far as I am concerned. It's destructive and destabalizing.