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Bush to Propose Help for Uninsured
AP via NYTimes.com ^ | 1/29/02

Posted on 01/29/2002 1:10:56 PM PST by GeneD

Filed at 4:59 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Bush will ask Congress for new tax credits to help people buy health insurance and more than $3 billion to expand government-run insurance programs, boosting ideas supported by both liberals and conservatives.

The president also plans to ask for more money for community health centers, who care for many uninsured patients and have long been promoted by Bush as an important part of the nation's health-care solution.

With 44 million Americans lacking insurance, the issue is before Congress constantly. Still, lawmakers failed to act last year, and debate over how much the unemployed need to help pay for health insurance has kept a stimulus package stuck on Capitol Hill.

The Bush plan will be detailed in the budget he submits to Congress next week. Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson is expected to preview it Wednesday.

The first piece of his proposal would recycle $3.2 billion allocated to the Children's Health Insurance Program but not spent by states. The money is scheduled to return to the federal treasury, but Bush is asking Congress to make it available to states that want to expand their CHIP plans and Medicaid to more low-income children or to their parents.

This is the approach to helping the uninsured that Democrats generally prefer. These state-run programs offer families health insurance directly, meaning parents don't have to shop around for coverage and are guaranteed a basic package of benefits.

Conservatives typically prefer a free-market approach, which would have families choose their own health insurance packages in the open market. Bush's plan, first made when he was running for president and included in his budget last year, will offer tax breaks to help pay often-steep premiums.

This year's proposal will be essentially unchanged and worth up to $1,000 per person or $2,000 per couple, according to an administration official speaking on condition of anonymity. Like last year, it will be available to people who don't owe federal taxes -- typically people with very low incomes.

Last year's proposal, which was phased in over a number of years, set the income limit at $30,000 in adjusted gross income for individual tax filers and $60,000 for married couples.

The plan's cost was estimated at $71.5 billion over 10 years.

The president also will propose an increase of $114 million for community health centers, bringing the total to $1.5 billion, an 8 percent increase over this year's appropriation.

Additionally, the budget plan will propose $350 million to continue Medicaid coverage for families that have recently left welfare. Without this extension, most parents would lose health coverage when they left the rolls. Eligibility for some help would continue for many children, but the new coverage might cost these families more than Medicaid did.

``Making Medicaid available during the welfare-to-work period encourages people to become employed by ensuring that their efforts to find jobs won't result in lost health coverage,'' Thompson said last week in announcing this proposal. ``We're continuing to make sure that work pays for our families.''


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To: Lazamataz

I have been leaning in the same direction.

I mean, a person can only take being shot in the foot so many times.

21 posted on 01/29/2002 2:13:32 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Jhoffa_
Are you aware that illegals already get free medical care? Why are your comments directed at them?
22 posted on 01/29/2002 2:16:15 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: GeneD
Lemme get this straight.

Taxable income at $60k. I can cancel my insurance and be uninsured. Then the gummint will give me $2k to buy insurance.

Is that it?

I read the post three times.

23 posted on 01/29/2002 2:16:47 PM PST by don-o
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To: ambrose

Dubya was chosen by God to lead us, Would you rather have algor, It's all a master plan to foil the democrats-you will see, He's so clever there is no way this can be taken at face value, Bush Basher!, I am gratefull to have a man like Dubya in the white house and you're just jealous, are you a stealth democrat?, We are in a WAR so stop ctiticizing the President.. and on, and on, and on..

24 posted on 01/29/2002 2:18:26 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Harrison Bergeron
Wrong. As I read this, Bush is proposing using some appropriated, but unused funds, to enhance the scope of EXISTING HHS programs for the poor, or nearly poor (in the case of Healthy Families program). This hardly sounds like "Hillarycare" to me.
25 posted on 01/29/2002 2:18:42 PM PST by My2Cents
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To: Lazamataz
Good for what? Never mind....don't answer that....
26 posted on 01/29/2002 2:22:14 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: DoughtyOne

We seem to have a Bush endorced stealth campaign to allow them to remain here: LINK

And their numbers roughly equal the number of Americans unemployed and undoubtedly will require government assistance to pay their way.

If the illegals weren't here, there would be jobs that employers would have to compete to fill at market wages.. Retaining employees may require benefits as an incentive, as opposed to handouts from the government it would be a tool employers use to get and keep help.

27 posted on 01/29/2002 2:26:16 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Jhoffa_
I think the key words you mentioned were, businesses would have to compete to fill. Yes I agree. And they could provide the medical benefits without the government stepping in to do it. I believe you and I want smaller government. This isn't smaller government.
28 posted on 01/29/2002 2:36:30 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

Of course not.. and the easiest way to get health coverage is through your employer.

Employers don't I suspect offer coverage because they necessarily want to. It's a tool for locating and retaining employees.

Now, if you can hire illegals.. pay them half the wages with none of the benefits, what happens to the people they displace?

I bet they become prime candidates for programs like this one, which employers provide for free otherwise.

29 posted on 01/29/2002 2:41:28 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Jhoffa_
Well, that's another reason why I am so dead set against Mexican citizens being allowed to compete for jobs in the US. I want full employment and wouldn't mind at all seeing a distressed labor availablity a period of time. Let those businesses compete. We've been holding wages artificially low for years by flooding the labor market. Enough already.
30 posted on 01/29/2002 2:45:46 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: My2Cents
So, I guess you folks who are complaining about expansion of existing federal health programs -- particularly for the poor -- at a time when the rate of the uninsured is skyrocking, aren't satisfied seeing homeless people wandering the streets; you also want to see them with open sores, and hacking on you with their tuberculon coughing.

You mean all those federal social programs instituted since the early 60's aren't working? The transfer of $8 trillion dollars of wealth from the givers (taxpayers) to the takers (those who can work if they really wanted to) hasn't worked? Gee imagine that.

There are already enough federal programs to shelter the lives of those truly in need. Enough is enough.

31 posted on 01/29/2002 2:52:47 PM PST by hattend
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To: DoughtyOne
Exactly, screen names aside, I am not a union goon.. I hate unions in fact.

And when employers complain: "The market should determine Minimum Wage" I completely agree. No Problem.

But then, when you ask them: "So the market should also determine how much you have to pay to retain help.. right?"

Their answer is to load the pool of potential employees with illegals, stifle competition and drive wages down.

So, on the one hand they want me to compete for my wage.. Fine.

But they don't want to have to compete for my labor, cause that's wrong somehow.

32 posted on 01/29/2002 2:54:05 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: GeneD
Sure am glad I got out of nursing. Socialized medicine is here to stay. It's only a matter of time now until we start weeding out the infirm and the elderly.
35 posted on 01/29/2002 3:21:24 PM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: Jhoffa_
I'm with you. I'm no union man by any means. But I try to be fair. I don't think everything the corporations do is bad. I don't think everything they do is good.

Capitalism is good. But allowing anything and everything in the name of capitalism is bad. Issues have to be judged on their merits. I believe in a free enterprize system within markets. But when you open those same tools to international markets, you can destroy the free nation in the quest for the mystical pot-o-gold at the end of the capitalist rainbow. To allow our workers to have compete with a nation paying it's employees cents per hour, is just plain lunacy as far as I am concerned. It's destructive and destabalizing.

36 posted on 01/29/2002 3:22:16 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Lazamataz
So, basically, what you are telling me is that I have a voting choice every November pitting a Socialist Gun-Grabbing Police-State-Pushing party, against a Socialist Not-Quite-As-Gun-Grabbing Police-State-Pushing party.

BUMP

37 posted on 01/29/2002 3:25:55 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: GeneD
Time for us all to get a second job to help pay for all these good ideas. Did you read today about the 191 billion he wants to spend revamping medicare? -- buying the senior citizens' vote with your tax money.

We are getting Hillary health care step by step.

I'm afraid that the tax rebate (pittance) we got has thrown Conservatives off balance so that they don't notice this spending. He talks tax cuts and spends like a liberal.

Every day it is billions - and the debts have to be repaid by us and our children. Companies and countries are going bankrupt. Do we think we are immuned?

I didn't think I was voting for this. I am so disappointed.

38 posted on 01/29/2002 3:27:47 PM PST by willa
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To: My2Cents
If you want to expand affordable health care, get the government and the insurance people out of it. They are middlemen who produce nothing constructive, but siphon off all the funds. They generate literally millions of rules and regulations which have turned healthcare into a more or less centrally planned, communist system. There is no free market competition. The only competition is to determine who can provide the government planned care the cheapest. Even the health records of the entire nation are now centralized.
39 posted on 01/29/2002 3:33:57 PM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: hattend
Educate yourself before you vent your spleen!....Bush is proposing putting additional money into existing health programs in order to assist more people. The reason? Since the recession began, the number of uninsured (which are made up primarily of employees of small companies that have dropped their health benefits, and of people who have lost their jobs) rose from 39 million last year to 45 million this year. Bush is simply expanding the existing safety net to catch some of those who have fallen off the private insurance market. Once the economy kicks in, the safety net can be retracted as the number of uninsured shrinks.

I think there's way too much hysteria on this thread. Look at the facts.

40 posted on 01/29/2002 3:38:53 PM PST by My2Cents
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