Posted on 01/29/2002 5:13:49 AM PST by simicyber
There have been a few cases in which people have been prosecuted for sodomy despite efforts to keep it private. In one case, for example, (IIRC) police entered an apartment on a no-knock raid on a drug tip; I don't remember if they found any drugs, but they did find two men engaged in sodomy whom they arrested for that.
IMHO, any anti-sodomy statutes should be written so as to only apply if the participants had reason to believe they might be observed by unwilling spectators, and should apply as well to indecent heterosexual activity.
All I know is...unllike I've been lead in this forum
All gays are NOT............SCREAMIN' QUEENS
And those who shout and question my heterosexuality..THAT is not in doubt. At least it shoudn't be.. guys...,,,,guys!!!!!!!,,,,,,,,GUYS!!!!!!!!!
I am having a joke here...right..You KNOW that!!!..(sometimes American's just don't get it!!)
Not necessarily. Suppose there is a gene that causes those carrying it to be more strongly attracted to males and less strongly to females than would otherwise be the case. This gene would likely harm the "reproductive success rate" of any males carrying it, but would increase the success rate of females. It is hardly implausible that the latter effect could more than make up for the former, with the effect that this gene would be present in succeeding generations.
Well, anal sex is a way of having something sorta like sex without getting a woman pregnant. And in some cultures that's probably the reason for its popularity. Unfortunately, if the lack of pregnancy risk leads to an acceptance of promiscuous anal sex (whether homo or hetro) diseases like AIDS may spread like wildfire.
Since you are an atheist I cannot expect that you will comprehend the existence of spiritual forces for good and evil and thereby will be unable to correctly chose between the two. But cultures and civilizations are spiritual organisms that stretch across time and space and live within a brief moment of time.
Enlightened individuals choose to ally themselves with the good in their civilizations and perpetuate those good things.
Cynics, those of little or no faith, mockers and evil peoples make it their habit to attack the enlightened with deceit and lies about their goals and beliefs.
American civilization is such a creation which should be studied, understood and nutured. The State has a role in that and cannot be wished away. Marx, indeed, was the one who predicted the withering away of the State. I don't.
My late wife was a public school teacher in inner city Chicago for years and the reality of her job and your ignorant caricature of a teacher only reveals your lack of knowledge. The hours and work load would kill a horse and I repeated told her to change jobs and go make some real money. She was, like those you mentioned, willing to forgo more money for love of her children and they loved her. And was a rare gleam of light in their bleak lives.
Not all teachers are like her certainly not enough but far more are the time servers you describe.
I am glad home schooling worked for you but it is not a viable alternative for many people because of the (opportunity) cost involved and the foregoing of specialized teachers. There is no way my parents could have provided home schooling for me with anywhere the depth I was able to obtain at high school. But I enjoyed school and had fun, too. Sorry more people don't have that experience including my sons. One was schooled in one of the finest public schools in Chicago and hated it. The other in one of the finest private schools in Chicago and he hates it. So go figure.
I wish that homosexuals that want to be lead their own sex lives discretely without harassment would recognize that Act Up et al. are no more their friends than are bigots who assault even homosexuals who try to be discrete.
BTW, there's a difference between being discrete and being totally secretive; I don't think the latter should be required, but unfortunately Act-Up et al. make it necessary to those who don't want to be associated with them.
I find myself thinking this far too often.
Unfortunately, I can never find the specifics on cases offered up in this manner. No location, no names of those arrested, no news stories relating to the verdict of the trial and what the sentence was and so on.
This sounds vaguely similar to a case in Georgia where the police arrived to serve a warrant (not a 'no-knock') and observed the sodomy from the sidewalk through the living room window. The two men were charged with sodomy but they couldn't have had any expectation of privacy committing sodomy in front of a street-level window. Unless, of course, they are stupid as well as sick.
IMHO, any anti-sodomy statutes should be written so as to only apply if the participants had reason to believe they might be observed by unwilling spectators, and should apply as well to indecent heterosexual activity.
I'd generally go along with that.
I think the U.S. has a national paradigm, loaded with assumptions, that its inhabitants have a hard time recognizing. (We all live in paradigms that are more or less invisible to us.) From outside the U.S., it's easy to see and no doubt very annoying, especially since American influences are so ubiquitous. The foolish assumptions and paradigms of Liberals and their followers are infuriating to me! Is this what you mean when you say that sometimes Americans just don't get it? Or do you mean something else?
The only sameness I put on that is that neither couple should be doing that in public. Once it gets PG-13 it for private time, straight or gay I don't care. As for quick pecks you should hang out with Italians, they've perfected the concept of the non-sexual man to man kiss.
I think it's a crappy deal no matter what reason someone uses.
Hey buddy! What business is it of yours what I do? I'll use BOTH hands if I want to, and whatcha gonna do, then, huh!?! I'd keep it to myself, but you people are always throwing it in my face! Coffee mugs, handshakes, playing cards, can openers, fishing poles, telephones, wallets and walkie-talkies... all designed specifically to oppress me and my kind!
[snif] I just wish you people would let me be myself!
Probably should write up a position paper or two on libertarian thinking (or LDS/libertarian thinking, and there are plenty of quotes from Joseph Smith and Brigham Young to help me make my point), upload it to my personal web page and then just post links to it in cases like this.
Why, WindMinstrel, I had no idea that you were such a, um, er, well, maniphobe?
How gauche.
[rim shot goes here]
Left-handed, ambidextrous, what's the difference? Ooh, and what if you kids' public school teacher is a "leftie"? Just what kind of agenda are your kids being exposed to, anyway?
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