Posted on 01/29/2002 5:13:49 AM PST by simicyber
Of course they can, although it is unusual. But you did not make any point with your sarcasm other than admitting you didn't understand mine.
The culture should not accept any sexual behavior as "normative" outside of a monagomous homosexual marriage.
Shalom.
FIRST and most importantly, it is not the responsibility of a government to educate the citizens...unless of course your a descendant of Lenin or have an agenda you would want to push on others then the public education vehicle is obviously the best route to take.
Secondly, attendance laws and state controll of homeschooling defeats the entire purpose. I don't have to prove to you that I can spell. I don't have to prove to the president that I can spell. My education is mine alone.
Third, a public school 70K salary does not mean the education is good, you seem to be concerned about teacher salaries, teachers know what they are getting into when they start their job. If they don't like it then they had better choose another field. Could it be some don't MIND working for "peanuts". In continuation, private schools are not likely to force a potential teacher to go to college for an education degree(as the feel good types in the NEA were the pioneers of the "education" degree). Instead, they can pursue a degree in Math, Science or Government. Imagine, a teacher teaching in a subject they know well and enjoy! What a thought!!
Remember, not everyone is going to make an awesome living and just because working for peanuts is an unappealling idea to you (and me) that it does not mean that there are not people out there willing to do it.
better?
I never did either. But I guess a fair amount of females like it if the stories are true. Seems a tad gross to me, and I'm not a prude either.
That's a valid argument and an interesting one ... for a different thread. If we move off onto the libertarian fallicy we will lose the focus of SAD.
Shalom.
Huh?
Your apples and oranges are spilling all over the floor.
That'll never happen. The controlling elitists fear that such an action would roll back the entire civil rights movement. They can choose to associate with their own set in the Upper West Side, and vacation on Martha's Vinny, but you and me gotta live in the communal dog-run and like it.
So then, what exactly is so magical about the act of marriage that sexual behavior inside of marriage should be considered "normal" and outside of it "abnormal"?
Surely you have much a different definition of "normal" and "unusual" then the overwhelming majority of Americans and, I'm quite certain, Freepers.
Or maybe you should get out more.
As such does it or does it not justify censorship of such displays (by homosexuals) in public?
Of course it is different. It is also abnormal. But does difference and abnormality constitute a morally justifiable reason to apply government restraining force at gunpoint? That is the question.
And I think the answer is somewhat dependent on the question of definitions of public and private. I think all too often the two are confused. Is a department store public? I would argue not. It is the property of the business owner, and he (not state) is therefore entitled to establish the terms and conditions for access to his property.
If he wishes to restrict either homosexual, or heterosexual (or all) displays of affection on his property, he is morally entitled to do so. Likewise if he wishes to allow them, he may do that also. Those unstaisfied with the terms of access, are free to choose not to enter. But ultimately, it is his property, and he (and not state, or the majority of neighbors) is entitled to establish the terms of access.
Now when you're talking about truly public property (which I as a libertarian oppose as a matter of principle) the public (being the theoretical owner) are entitled to establish the terms and conditions of use. But "the public" (as recognized and manifest in the state) is also bound by the responsibility to recognize all as equal before the law. Hence if the public wishes to prohibit public displays of affection, it must do so indiscriminately.
I do not wish to think of you as evasive hence I hope you will declare where you stand on this issue.
I'm generally not an evasive guy, and will do my best to answer any question put to me in good faith, provided it is asked in good faith. I apologize for my earlier hostility. I did not recognize the intent of your question, and I was a bit exhasperated.
Could you please direct me to that department? I may be willing to stand in line for that particular program.
This sounds like you're advocating mob rule. I'm sure you realize this type of government is not moral, and is certainly not what our founders intended.
I understand. I can always hope for common sense to return, can't I? Hope and pray, that is.
Shalom.
That would not upset me in the least. History has shown which definition is better for the survival of a culture.
I will admit that most people seem to get very upset at the idea that they should exercise self-control with respect to their sex drives.
Shalom.
And likewise others get very upset when asked to exercise self-control with respect to their impulse to nanny over the private sex lives of others.
One more time -- what is so magical about the act of marriage that those who are not married but engage in monogamous sexual relationships should be discouraged from doing so and should not be considered "normal" (your words)?
Actually, having sex constitutes marriage from a religious point of view. When you have sex with someone you marry them. Legally, there are specific contractual obligations that strengthen the family unit creating a foundation for our social constructions.
However, I have known people who are common-law married and it works for them. It can be done without law. But that is unusual.
Shalom.
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