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Draping History. Ashcroft orders semi-nude statues covered.
ABC News ^ | January 25, 2002 | Beverley Lumpkin

Posted on 01/26/2002 10:00:54 AM PST by John Jorsett

W A S H I N G T O N, Jan. 25 — About three weeks ago, I received a tip. The attorney general was fed up with having his picture taken during events in the Great Hall in front of semi-nude statues.

He had ordered massive draperies to conceal the offending figures. But initially not only could the story not be confirmed — it was strongly denied.

As some of you may know the Justice Department building was constructed during the 1930s as a WPA project, completed in 1934. The artwork and fittings were strongly influenced by the Art Deco movement. Much of the ornamentation in the building is made of aluminum, apparently a big Art Deco feature.

The Great Hall is basically what it sounds like — a large, even grand, two-story room used for department events and ceremonies. The formal entrance up a winding stairway is adorned with murals depicting great figures in the history of law, including Moses, Hammurabi, and John Marshall.

At the opposite end of the hall, on either side of the stage, are two enormous and stylized but largely naked aluminum statues. On the left, the female figure represents the Spirit of Justice; the male on the right is the Majesty of Justice. The male is clad in only a cloth draped over his essential parts; the female wears a sort of toga-style garment, but one breast is entirely exposed. She's been fondly referred to for years by at least some as "Minnie Lou."

And she's the one the photographers seek out. The most famous pictures of all were shot when former U.S. Attorney General Edwin Meese proudly released the final report of his commission on pornography. No one in the Great Hall that day could ever forget the spectacle of the still photographers writhing on the floor, flat on their backs, in order to grab the shot of Meese holding up the porn report with Minnie Lou's breast over his shoulder.

So there were some who wondered how Attorney General John Ashcroft, known as a strongly religious and conservative man, would get along with the figures once he became attorney general.

For a long time he didn't seem to mind. But last November he and Deputy Attorney General Larry Thompson staged a major event in the Great Hall, to announce their plans for restructuring the Justice Department to address the new challenge of fighting terrorism. Many papers the next day used a photo of the attorney general with — you guessed it — Minnie Lou and that breast right over his shoulder.

According to my original tipster, that was the final straw for Ashcroft, and he ordered that the statues henceforth be draped.

Public affairs people however denied any such thing. They stoutly maintained that the attorney general had never complained and that no draperies had been ordered. They pointed out that periodically, through different administrations, draperies were sometimes rented for particular events.

They noted that former spokeswoman Mindy Tucker always hated the statues; Mindy told me Thursday it was her view that half the women in the department were offended by them and the other half considered them art.

Well, I guess this is a lot of background to get to the point: the draperies have in fact been ordered. Minnie Lou and her mate now can only be imagined. The draperies installed last week at a cost of just over $8,000.

And it turns out that they were indeed ordered by someone in the attorney general's office, who delivered the request to the Justice Management Division and asserted it was the attorney general's desire. I'm told she was the only person in the attorney general's office who knew about it. She's his advance person, and she said it was done for "aesthetic purposes" — she just thought it would look better when staging events in the Great Hall.

So now it appears that rather than making an occasional appearance, the draperies are here to stay — unless and until someone has the temerity to request an event without them.


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To: Arkinsaw
...the only ones who are tittilated by these antics are the reporters themselves.

LOL- hey, it's the closest thing to a sex scandal these reporters will probably ever have on the Bush administration.

They'll grasp at whatever straws they can!

41 posted on 01/26/2002 1:27:39 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Arkinsaw
"...tittilated..."

I believe it's 'titillated', or perhaps in some cases,'tit-elated'. ;^)

42 posted on 01/26/2002 1:34:52 PM PST by headsonpikes
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To: John Jorsett
Okay, gotta admit it. This is too funny...


Attorney General John Ashcroft,
under the Spirit of Justice statue
in commemoration of the Life and
Legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.,
on Jan. 17. (Joe Marquette/AP Photo)

I would love to see the picture of Meese

43 posted on 01/26/2002 2:10:59 PM PST by lonevoice
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To: John Jorsett
stupid.
45 posted on 01/26/2002 3:55:21 PM PST by ken21
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To: Youngblood
what are you saying?? Don't you know that boobies are evil? It's for the children, for God's sake!
46 posted on 01/27/2002 9:21:15 AM PST by WindMinstrel
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To: mindprism.com
I keep forgetting -- Which is the Taliban.

Oh, get over yourself.

47 posted on 01/27/2002 11:43:27 AM PST by Ward Smythe
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To: John Jorsett
Although covering these statues is something I probably wouldn't do, I'd sure rather have that mindset running the government instead of one that puts condoms and crackpipes on a Christmas tree.

I still don't understand how Ashcroft squares a stance like this on one hand with the pre-emptive strike against pro-lifers on the other. (Save your fingers if you want to tell me that he was just enforcing the law. You don't have to go get court orders to stop people from praying before an event even happens if you're just enforcing the law.)

MM

48 posted on 01/27/2002 2:29:16 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: John Jorsett
Would this story have seen the light of day without confirmation if it had been a Democrat?
49 posted on 01/27/2002 2:33:13 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: John Jorsett
I need help comprehending exactly what it is that is patently evil about a nude statue. Is it the acknowledgement that people are actually naked under their hairshirts that some fear? A standing nude can only be considered obsene by an obsene mind, say I.

Outside the (leased) building of my former employer was a 30' tall rendering of the David. Now, for those of you unfamiliar with the sculpture, David is full-bollocks naked as the day he was born. There was quite a movement formed, primarily by a bunch of women for whom the statue was most likely the closest they would come to a male body, to have the "offensive statue" removed. Seems that it was creating a "hostile environment."

The landlord's response to this herd of bra-burning cows? "Get a life." Really! Heh, heh.
50 posted on 01/28/2002 5:03:26 AM PST by Neckbone
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To: lonevoice

Ashcroft: "And if the statue were larger, the breast would be THIS big."

51 posted on 01/28/2002 5:13:34 AM PST by TexasNative2000
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To: John Jorsett
It's stuff like this that gives the Washington ComPost and the New York Slimes ammunition to portray us as a bunch of nutty rubes. I'm starting to think Ashcroft needs to have his head examined.
52 posted on 01/28/2002 10:09:58 AM PST by jpl
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To: TexasNative2000
LOL! Well, somebody had to say it.
53 posted on 01/28/2002 10:28:47 PM PST by lonevoice
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To: lonevoice
Where are the pictures of Reno with the statue in the background?
54 posted on 01/29/2002 8:26:56 AM PST by DrDavid
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To: John Jorsett
I am taking CREDIT as the inadvertent inspiration for this story by BEVERLY LUMPKIN. Why? Because on January 21 I posted this THREAD about how boring Beverly Lumpkin has become. I know she monitors the Free Republic so I am sure she saw my post and decided to spice up her usually dull reports a bit. Glad you have been taking my advice, Beverly. Your story might not have much to do with the job of the Attorney General but at least it is a wee bit interesting. (But is it accurate?)
55 posted on 01/29/2002 4:22:57 PM PST by PJ-Comix
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To: Ward Smythe
Oh, get over yourself.

I think your advice is more applicable to the AG than me, my parallel is no more ridiculous than his apparent perspective.

56 posted on 01/30/2002 10:26:13 PM PST by mindprism.com
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To: mindprism.com
my parallel is no more ridiculous than his apparent perspective

I took your parallel to be a comparison of Christianity to the Taliban which is simply stupid.
(If you meant otherwise, my apologies.)

57 posted on 02/03/2002 1:27:42 PM PST by Ward Smythe
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To: Ward Smythe
I took your parallel to be a comparison of Christianity to the Taliban which is simply stupid.

And to be intimidated by a nude statue to this degree is stupid also. I hope I never see anyone with Ashcrofts mentality on the USSC.

58 posted on 02/05/2002 11:16:53 PM PST by mindprism.com
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To: mindprism.com
And to be intimidated by a nude statue to this degree is stupid also.

I still contend that Ashcroft is less intimidated by the statue than he is aware of the attitudes of the media.

From the article: And she's the one the photographers seek out. The most famous pictures of all were shot when former U.S. Attorney General Edwin Meese proudly released the final report of his commission on pornography. No one in the Great Hall that day could ever forget the spectacle of the still photographers writhing on the floor, flat on their backs, in order to grab the shot of Meese holding up the porn report with Minnie Lou's breast over his shoulder.

With this kind of high school antics from the media, hanging a blue curtain - which we all know reads better on tv anyway - is simply good PR, whatever the motivation.

59 posted on 02/06/2002 4:58:11 AM PST by Ward Smythe
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To: Ward Smythe
With this kind of high school antics from the media, hanging a blue curtain - which we all know reads better on tv anyway - is simply good PR, whatever the motivation.

To take such action is just validating their juvenile perceptions. It reminds me of the breast-feeding debate, where having to hide it, in a sense, MADE it 'dirty'.

60 posted on 02/06/2002 1:54:18 PM PST by mindprism.com
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