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BTW, happiness is way overrated. Joy is much to be preferred over happiness

You cann't have joy without happiness? But you can have happiness without joy-can't you?

"You cann't have joy without happiness? But you can have happiness without joy-can't you?"

I think that you have it backwards. It is quite possible to experience the joy of Christ in the most unhappy of circumstances. Joy is not dependent upon happiness. Joy often breaks through the gloom and despair of the most miserable of circumstances.

You cann't have joy without happiness? But you can have happiness without joy-can't you?

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First decisions create character and now happiness without joy. I submit that these people had joy, but not necessarily happiness:

But call to remembrance the former days in which, after ye were illuminated, ye endured a great fight of afflictions, partly while ye were being made a gazingstock both by reproaches and afflictions, and partly while ye became companions of those who were so used.
For ye had compassion on me in my bonds and took joyfully the despoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in Heaven a better and an enduring substance.