[CCWoody]

You cann't have joy without happiness? But you can have happiness without joy-can't you?

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First decisions create character and now happiness without joy. I submit that these people had joy, but not necessarily happiness:

But call to remembrance the former days in which, after ye were illuminated, ye endured a great fight of afflictions, partly while ye were being made a gazingstock both by reproaches and afflictions, and partly while ye became companions of those who were so used.

For ye had compassion on me in my bonds and took joyfully the despoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in Heaven a better and an enduring substance.

[fortheDeclaration]

But call to remembrance the former days in which, after ye were illuminated, ye endured a great fight of afflictions, partly while ye were being made a gazingstock both by reproaches and afflictions, and partly while ye became companions of those who were so used. For ye had compassion on me in my bonds and took joyfully the despoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in Heaven a better and an enduring substance.

And you know they were unhappy but still joyful-amazing!