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Bush's food stamp plan called ethnic pandering
San Antonio Express-News ^ | January 18th, 2002 | Gary Martin

Posted on 01/18/2002 7:24:06 PM PST by Sabertooth

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To: Sabertooth
"Bend over and get your red hot Surrender here!"

What! No churros?

Racist!

21 posted on 01/18/2002 7:57:11 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: mommadooo3
Don't forget the food we give the U.N and the World
22 posted on 01/18/2002 7:57:35 PM PST by expose
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To: sneakypete; PhiKapMom; Ragin1; SmartBlonde; SickOfItAll; Jorge; Egg; boycott; expose...
(((ping))))


23 posted on 01/18/2002 7:58:25 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Next budget: "midnight bullfighting" !
25 posted on 01/18/2002 8:01:50 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: Revolting cat!
January 19, 2002

Bill Would Give Tuition Break to Undocumented Students

Published in the Herald-Republic on Thursday, January 17, 2002

By TOM ROEDER

YAKIMA HERALD-REPUBLIC

OLYMPIA -- Some students who are not U.S. citizens may get a big financial boost to attend college under a bill proposed in the state House.

The measure, HB 2330, would give students without U.S. citizenship state resident status for college if they are seeking legal residency, had graduated from high school in Washington and lived here for at least three years.

Now students without U.S. citizenship must obtain a student visa and pay costly out-of-state tuition to attend four-year schools and community colleges in the state.

"The title may scare people off because it says undocumented," said the bill's sponsor, Rep. Phyllis Gutierrez-Kenney, a Seattle Democrat. "But these are people who have lived here and worked here, contributing their taxes and their labors to make our state a better place."

She said the bill substantially cuts the price of college for undocumented students by giving them resident rates and encourages many to attend who now don't possess the paperwork they need to even apply for admission.

For instance, at Central Washington University in Ellensburg, tuition and fees for someone applying as a resident full-time undergraduate is $3,348 a year as opposed to out-of-state tuition costs of $11,085. That equates to a saving of more than $7,700 for a student who applies as a state resident.

The bill doesn't change requirements for state and federal financial aid, which demand recipients to be citizens.

A Wapato native, Gutierrez-Kenney said the measure would spur enrollments from the Yakima Valley, where the Hispanics, including those who entered the country without permission, make up 37 percent of the population.

But Gutierrez-Kenney doesn't know how many potential college students could wind up in state schools under her proposal. The state doesn't track which students in public schools are citizens.

But in the Yakima Valley, numbers aren't needed to show that Gutierrez-Kenney's bill would help students move on to college, said Jim Rigney, coordinator of migrant and bilingual programs at Yakima's Davis High School.

"These are students who are products of our system," Rigney said. "I have watched us produce magnificent kids and waste that resource."

Rigney said a number of Yakima students who have made it through high school with good grades are turned away at college because of citizenship problems.

"These are kids with 3.8 and 3.9 averages," he said. "These kids are never going back to Mexico. They are our kids."

In the past few years, California and Texas have adopted similar changes.

But the change isn't without opponents.

Ephrata's Republican Rep. Joyce Mulliken said citizenship requirements should remain on the books.

"If people want the benefits of the state, they need to be legal," she said. "Education is in the top of my list of priorities but let's take care of citizenship first and college second."

Zillah's Republican Rep. Barb Lisk was warmer to the proposal.

"If these people would be actively seeking legal status while in college, then I would listen to the bill," she said.

Yakima's Rep. Mary Skinner, another Republican, said she was withholding judgment until she gets more details on Gutierrez-Kenney's plan.

"I need to look at all the particulars," she said.

The bill and other legislative information can be found on the Internet at www.leg.wa.gov.

Internet-connected computers can be found at most Central Washington public libraries.

26 posted on 01/18/2002 8:03:28 PM PST by expose
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To: Okiegolddust
Or at least Bush will have to get some motor-voter Hispanic to vote for you.

Motor voter Republicans always vote Democrat...

All three times!


27 posted on 01/18/2002 8:03:43 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
I am waiting for the tally, Bush has done more harm in a year than Clinton managed in eight as far as I am concerned.
28 posted on 01/18/2002 8:03:57 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: expose
It sure seems like Bush is QUICK to spend, spend, spend. Where's he getting all that money from?
29 posted on 01/18/2002 8:05:34 PM PST by mommadooo3
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To: Mulder
I can hear the Bush apologists already:

There is a conservative reason for doing this. It's a brilliant strategy to reduce government, but the Bush's critics just can't figure out the man's true intentions. Trust him.

31 posted on 01/18/2002 8:07:31 PM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: mommadooo3
It sure seems like Bush is QUICK to spend, spend, spend. Where's he getting all that money from?

I'm sure a GOP apologist will be along shortly to answer your question.

32 posted on 01/18/2002 8:12:35 PM PST by CoolGuyVic
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To: Sabertooth
That will cost money, Senate Democrats warn. Some of them are calling Bush's plan financially unsound, and they want to know how the administration is going to pay for the rollback, which the White House says will ring up at $2.1 billion over the next 10 years.

Of course, the Dems are just being coy. They don't really care that this amount of money will be spent; in fact, they are probably having a good snicker at the expense of conservatives who fought long and hard for the mild welfare reform that was passed in '96. I guess the era of big government has returned.

I give Bush good marks for his performance in 2001, but 2002 is getting off to a disasterous start, at least as far as the conservative wing of the party is concerned.

33 posted on 01/18/2002 8:14:34 PM PST by Major Matt Mason
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To: Sabertooth
Heck , he can get a lot done in 8 years, plus get the Hispanic vote set up for the next guy.Ethnic panering has been part of politics forever!
Then they can eliminate the program right before he leaves office , and wella! We have the Hispanic vote.
People usually don't change their registration easily, especially after voting Republican for what could be the next 16 years! The children will learn to vote Republican from their parents.

This may not work out so bad.
Gotta get 'em before the Dems do, any way we can!
The dumocraps held the Blacks as slaves for years! Look how hard it was to teach them that and change their minds? We still have to work on it! They still don't see their slave master politicians for what they are.

34 posted on 01/18/2002 8:17:44 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: CoolGuyVic
Well, it WILL be interesting. And I'll probably have to dig out my asbestos undies. And yes, I voted for him AND prayed my little heart out during the election snafu. I have a really hard time getting past one little thing....if it was klintler/goresky pulling this garbage, there'd be shouts heard 'round the world.

Double standards are double standards even IF it's with the guy one voted for. (did that make sense?LOL)

35 posted on 01/18/2002 8:19:44 PM PST by mommadooo3
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To: MissAmericanPie
I am waiting for the tally, Bush has done more harm in a year than Clinton managed in eight as far as I am concerned.

No one could ever come close to doing as much harm as the Clintons. Ever.

36 posted on 01/18/2002 8:19:56 PM PST by CheneyChick
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To: aruanan
"His attempt to expand our political base through surrendering to the Hispanic vote* is usually the Democrats' job. Votes can't be bought with welfare," said Tancredo, R-Colo.

Earth to Tancredo. Earth to Tancredo. Where have you been living all these years? Over.

*Soon to be larger than the black vote.

Yah thats true isnt it. Dont walk, RUN to America! More free handouts!

37 posted on 01/18/2002 8:20:45 PM PST by PuNcH
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To: MissAmericanPie
I am waiting for the tally, Bush has done more harm in a year than Clinton managed in eight as far as I am concerned.

You've got to be kidding!! Hellooooo.
It might be better tommarrow if you put that bottle down now.

38 posted on 01/18/2002 8:21:10 PM PST by concerned about politics
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To: CheneyChick
Hmmm lemme think, stem cell research, Home Land Security, wide open borders, pandering to illegals, and the population of illegals has doubled in my town in the last seven months...are you real sure about that?
39 posted on 01/18/2002 8:23:37 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: concerned about politics
This may not work out so bad.
Gotta get 'em before the Dems do, any way we can!

Wrong. Not by Surrender on Illegals and immigration, and not by retreating on food stamps.

I'll remain in the Republican party, but will withhold my vote from Republicans if Bush does this.


40 posted on 01/18/2002 8:24:07 PM PST by Sabertooth
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