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Catholics, Jews Unite To Attack Scholar's Latest, Goldhagen Stirring Ire With Article on Pius XII
FORWARD ^ | JANUARY 18, 2002 | MARC PERELMAN

Posted on 01/17/2002 10:36:20 PM PST by FreeSpeechConservative

Catholics, Jews Unite To Attack Scholar's Latest


Goldhagen Stirring Ire With Article on Pius XII


By MARC PERELMAN


FORWARD STAFF

Participants in a troubled Jewish-Catholic dialogue found a rare point of agreement this week in their criticism of an article by historian Daniel Goldhagen that attacks the behavior of Pope Pius XII during World War II and raises the question of the church's responsibility for the Holocaust.

In a lengthy article, "What Would Jesus Have Done? Pope Pius XII, the Catholic Church and the Holocaust," published this week in The New Republic magazine, Mr. Goldhagen charges that Pope Pius XII was an anti-Semite and a collaborator with Nazi Germany. Moreover, he claims, there is an "obvious integral relationship" between the church's historical anti-Judaism and the genesis of the Holocaust. He also calls for examining the culpability of the church for the Holocaust.

"Anti-Semitism led to the Holocaust," wrote Mr. Goldhagen, a former Harvard professor and author of a controversial 1996 book, "Hitler's Willing Executioners." "Anti-Semitism has been integral to the Catholic Church. Surely the question of what the relationship is between the church's anti-Semitism and the Holocaust should be at the center of any general treatment of either of these subjects."

Eugene Fisher, associate director of the Secretariat for Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs of the National Conference of Catholic Bishops in Washington, lashed out at Mr. Goldhagen.

"This is a remarkably uninformed piece," said Mr. Fisher, who has been involved for many years in Jewish-Catholic dialogue. "He lives in fantasy land and he is making this up. It's a sad case and he ought to see a psychiatrist."

Rabbi David Rosen, international director of inter-religious affairs at the American Jewish Committee, said that Mr. Goldhagen "has an unconcealed antagonism against the Catholic Church, and it shows."

Rabbi Rosen added that while the article was "fine on the past, it was woefully uninformed on the present efforts by the church to mend its ways." Several other scholars and members of the Jewish-Catholic dialogue interviewed for this article made the same point and were especially incensed that steps taken by Pope John Paul II were not acknowledged by Mr. Goldhagen. (See ForwardForum, Page 9.) While some agreed with Mr. Goldhagen's criticism of Pius XII, they criticized his sweeping indictment of the church. Mr. Goldhagen declined to comment on the reactions. He told the Forward that the article was the foundation for his upcoming book, "A Moral Reckoning, the Catholic Church During the Holocaust and Today," to be published in the fall.

His article comes at a time of renewed tensions between Jews and Catholics over the proposed beatification of Pius XII. For years, Jewish groups have protested the Vatican's intention to beatify a pope who, they claim, maintained a guilty silence during the Holocaust. Last summer, the work of a joint historical commission formed to study the wartime archives of the Vatican stalled over the refusal of Vatican officials to give historians full access to the archives, prompting acrimonious exchanges between Jewish and Catholic officials.

However, Seymour Reich, chairman of the International Jewish Committee on Interreligious Consultations, the official Jewish liaison with the Vatican, praised the Goldhagen article as "very powerful" and believed it would have a "great impact."

"If the Catholic Church wants to defend itself against those charges, there is only one solution - open the wartime archives," said Mr. Reich, who has spent considerable time negotiating with the Vatican to open its archives and who expressed frustration after those efforts foundered last summer.

Mr. Goldhagen's piece is presented as a review essay of several books in the issue. But his personal thoughts are clearly on display and The New Republic presents his article as "an exhaustive investigation."

Mr. Goldhagen starts the article by denouncing the "exculpatory strategies" used by apologists of Pius XII and compares them to the ones used by those trying to exculpate ordinary Germans of their responsibility for, and participation in, the Holocaust. This is a direct reference to the thesis he defended in "Hitler's Willing Executioners," which prompted vivid criticism from some of his fellow historians for his broad denunciation of the German people.

In addition to a relatively consensual criticism of Pius XII's inaction to help Jews, Mr. Goldhagen also claims that the pope was an anti-Semite who collaborated with Nazi Germany - like Marshall Philippe Petain in France or Vidkun Quisling in Norway - most noticeably by signing a concordat agreement with Adolph Hitler in 1933.

But more crucially, Mr. Goldhagen argues that the focus over Pius XII's beatification deflects criticism over the church's past and the attitude of the Vatican and the national churches during the war. This leads him to the most devastating charges of the article, the link between the Church and the Holocaust.

Mr. Goldhagen writes that the "iron curtain" erected by the church between its theological anti- Judaism and Germany's anti-Semitism is a "fiction" that must be lifted.

"This inevitably leads to a consideration of the degree of the church's culpability not just for its reactions to the eliminationist onslaught, but also for the Holocaust itself," he wrote.

He notes that the Catholic Church could find "common cause" with most of the declarations of anti-Semites in the 1930s and claims it makes "little difference" if "their litanies of hatred were not 100 percent congruent, but only a figurative 90 percent."

Mr. Goldhagen goes on to describe as insufficient efforts made by the church since the war, from the "tepid and deeply flawed" Vatican II Council in 1965, which officially recognized that the Jews did not kill Jesus, to the "half-heartedness and historical fabrications" of the 1998 "We Remember" declaration by the church on the Holocaust, which acknowledged the shortcomings of the church during the war.

"This is really the area where he shows lack of knowledge," said Rabbi Rosen of AJCommittee. "There are many other documents and efforts made that he seems not to know about and this is troubling."


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To: Romulus
Thanks for all the information. Admittedly, I've never read much about Pope Pius XII except the slanders against him, which have always dominated the media coverage.
41 posted on 01/18/2002 9:51:15 AM PST by onyx
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To: jmp702

From a politically conservative point of view, this article regarding Rabbi Lapin of TowardTradition

Lapin is the man!

42 posted on 01/18/2002 10:18:07 AM PST by Zviadist
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To: veronica

We have been referring to him as the head of "Jews for Hitler". Finkelstein is the world's leading Jewish Holocaust Denier.

You're kooky, and perhaps certifiable. One can be deeply touched by the Holocaust, yet critical of how some vested interests seek to benefit financially from it without being a friggin Nazi! As a matter of fact, those most moved by the Holocaust would be MOST VOCIFEROUS in their opposition to those who would seek to profit financially from its memory. I can think of nothing more noble than to oppose those who would cheapen the Holocaust for profit. What's wrong with you?

43 posted on 01/18/2002 10:21:51 AM PST by Zviadist
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To: SauronOfMordor

An argument could be made that it is only those Jews who retained their status as members of the "chosen people", and were later assimulated into one Church

It is indeed an interesting and stimulating argument.

44 posted on 01/18/2002 10:23:17 AM PST by Zviadist
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To: Zviadist
Your need to attack me for merely posting an article by a respected Conservative writer like Steven Plaut, which confirms that the evil Leftist and Holocaust denier Finkelstein is indeed who I said he was, AND who is a sock puppet for Jewhaters everywhere, makes me wonder about your agenda.

I suggest you transfer your support of the Holocaust denier Finkelstein to Elie Weisel, a true hero of the Holocaust, who was by President Bush's side on Holocaust Commemoration Day. And try not to call names.

45 posted on 01/18/2002 10:29:49 AM PST by veronica
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To: Romulus
Andrew Sullivan, a strong supporter of Israel and Jews, wrote a column critical of Goldhagan's essay.
46 posted on 01/18/2002 10:32:34 AM PST by onyx
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To: veronica

makes me wonder about your agenda.

My agenda is love.

And I calls 'em as I sees 'em. Finkelstein makes some very good points. Sorry, but only in a very twisted mind does that make me a Nazi. If you are getting confused about what Nazis really are, perhaps you might like to take a trip over to Stormfront.org. That will refresh your memory.

47 posted on 01/18/2002 10:34:48 AM PST by Zviadist
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To: Zviadist
From a review of Finkelstein's book....

Finkelstein says: If David Irving [the British Holocaust denier] is saying, "Well, an Auschwitz survivor is born every day," he can say that, because if you look at the numbers of the Holocaust industry, it's true....

He even aligns himself with, and defends disgraced David Irving, the most notorious Holocaust denier on the planet.

48 posted on 01/18/2002 10:36:31 AM PST by veronica
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To: veronica
As neither a Catholic or a Jew, but as I think you know a friend of Israel, don't damn the Catholic Church or Pius XII on grounds of guilt by association with these defenders. They can only talk about Catholicism's innate "anti-Judaism" by rejecting Vatican II. They are far more bitterly anti-Jewish than the pre-Vatican II popes. All the documentation they cite on Pius should just provoke one answer: "So why haven't YOU learned anything from this?"

I am neither an admirer nor a hater of Pius 12. Protestants don't typically warm to him. But I think the record of WWII is that he knew what was happening was wrong and did what he thought was possible. If he had been a different kind of man he might have thought more was possible. But don't play along when these people use him to absolve themselves of their own anti-Semitism.

49 posted on 01/18/2002 10:42:12 AM PST by Southern Federalist
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To: veronica
You love to assasinate people by their supposed "association" while never really addressing the issues. I did not say "I find Finkelstein's arguments stimulating because he associates himself with Irving", did I? So why not address the issue instead of using the Leninist tactic of attacking motives, associations, etc? Your arguments would be more interesting to read and may even convince some people that your views have some merit. As it stands now, you just come off as a hater. That's no fun.
50 posted on 01/18/2002 10:42:18 AM PST by Zviadist
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To: Zviadist
>>>Conservative" Catholics fully embrace the nearly heretical ecumenism of JPII's Church, shockingly turning their back on the history and traditions of their own faith and agreeing to the modernist fabrication that false religions are just "another way" to salvation.

Its been a while, but you are again repeating this falsehood. The Church does not teach, and conservative Catholics do not believe, that other religions are "another way" to salvation. The Vatican just got done silencing another theologian trying to teach that, but yet here you are.

patent

51 posted on 01/18/2002 10:50:24 AM PST by patent
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To: Zviadist
Finkelstein makes some very good points.....

Sorry sounds like Holocaust denial acceptance to me.

Reminds me of the old joke -- 'so other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy play?'

52 posted on 01/18/2002 10:50:45 AM PST by veronica
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To: Romulus
Re: #4. Goldhagen must have missed all of this despite his "exhaustive research."
53 posted on 01/18/2002 10:54:01 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: veronica
Hello, Veronica. You still here?
54 posted on 01/18/2002 11:02:16 AM PST by Romulus
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To: Romulus
Your disdain for "self-hating Jews" is well known. Do you find the self-pity of certified victimhood more to your taste?

Well stated.

55 posted on 01/18/2002 11:08:47 AM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: Southern Federalist
As neither a Catholic or a Jew, but as I think you know a friend of Israel, don't damn the Catholic Church or Pius XII on grounds of guilt by association with these defenders.

I am not even debating the Church issue. I am debating the book on Germany and Finkelstein.

56 posted on 01/18/2002 11:10:00 AM PST by veronica
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To: Romulus
It is precisely that I reject the idea of victimhood that I will not stand for people like Finkelstein who make those accusations against Jews.

He's a freak. Most Jews shun him. He is loved however by the enemies of Jews and Israel. Like Noam Chomsky, Amira Hass, Israel Shahak, that gang. The real hard Lefties.

57 posted on 01/18/2002 11:12:45 AM PST by veronica
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To: veronica
The fact that Finkelstein is the child of Holocaust survivors makes him all the more evil. He spits in the face of his own parents. AND he accuses others of profiting from the Holocaust, which is what he does.

Hear, hear!

58 posted on 01/18/2002 11:16:10 AM PST by Petronski
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To: veronica
Are you ready to shun Daniel Goldhagen? Or do you think permanent victim status is "good for the Jews"?
59 posted on 01/18/2002 11:22:27 AM PST by Romulus
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To: veronica
I am not even debating the Church issue. I am debating the book on Germany and Finkelstein.

You came onto this thread to defend a libel, got soundly spanked, and are now desperately trying to change the subject.

60 posted on 01/18/2002 11:24:17 AM PST by Romulus
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