Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

From scientist to saint: does Darwin deserve a day?
The Guardian (UK) ^ | Sunday January 13, 2002 | Robin McKie, science editor

Posted on 01/13/2002 8:47:59 AM PST by aculeus

He was the originator of the most dangerous idea in history. He disenfranchised God as our creator and revealed the animal origins of humanity. Many believe his influence was pernicious and evil.

But now a campaign has been launched to establish an international day of celebration on 12 February: birthday of Charles Darwin, author of the theory of evolution by natural selection.

'Along with Shakespeare and Newton, Darwin is our greatest gift to the world,' said Richard Dawkins, honorary president of the Darwin Day Organisation. 'He was our greatest thinker. Any campaign to recognise his greatness should have a significant British contribution.'

The Darwin campaign was launched by US activists two years ago to resist the anti-evolution campaigning of fundamental Christians. Now the aim is to create global celebrations by 2009, the bicentennial of his birthday.

'We have little chance of getting a national holiday for Darwin in the US - there is far too much anti-science and pseudoscience,' said project organiser Amanda Chesworth.'We are more likely to get one established in Europe, particularly in Britain, his birthplace.'

Celebrations will include seminars and lectures, and the showing of films and plays on Darwin's life, though other ideas include an atheist giving Radio 4's Thought for the Day, and a lesson on evolution being preached at Westminster Abbey. 'I'd do it like a shot,' said Dawkins.

Darwin was originally religious. He saw nature's diversity as proof of God's existence. Only a divine creator could be responsible for such marvels, it was then thought. But, after travelling the world in the Beagle, and after years of thought and experiment at his Down House home in Kent, he concluded that natural selection offered a better explanation.

Life forms better suited to their environments live longer and so have more offspring, thus triggering an evolution of species moving into new ecological niches. As philosopher Daniel Dennett said, it was 'the single best idea anyone has ever had... ahead of Newton and Einstein and everyone else.'

It is also remarkably simple. 'You can explain natural selection to a teenager,' said UK biologist John Maynard Smith. 'You have difficulty with Newton and little chance with Einstein. Yet Darwin's idea is the most profound. It still haunts us.'

Nor is opposition to Darwin confined to religious figures. Sociologists, psychologists and others involved in social policy hate natural selection, said Maynard Smith. 'They deny human behaviour is influenced by genes and evolution. They want to believe we are isolated from the animal kingdom. It is damaging, intellectual laziness. That is why we need a Darwin Day.

This point was backed by biologist Steve Jones. 'If you look at Africa, US fundamentalism, and the Muslim world, you realise evolution supporters are outnumbered by creationists. Yet these are people who have deliberately chosen to be ignorant. They are flat-Earthers without the sophistication. We need a Darwin Day to counter that ignorance.'


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crevolist
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 161-176 next last
To: Eagle74
The Way Things Are:

Species on the Earth have gone through at least 6 mass extinctions, including volcanism, an asteroid, glaciation, and others. This is home sapiens' time on earth, as successors to an age of worms, age of reptiles, and an(earlier) age of mammals. Nothing at all states that homo sapiens is the height of evolution, or that intelligence is a superior trait. The dinosaurs lasted for 120 million years - we will be lucky to last for another 50. We can derive whatever comfort we like from ancient mythologies and ancient writings. However, we have a very limited time on earth, it is best to make the best of it before we pass on.

61 posted on 01/13/2002 11:51:40 AM PST by warpsmith
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

Comment #62 Removed by Moderator

Comment #63 Removed by Moderator

To: PatrickHenry
Your math is bogus because you never prove that you or marilyn EQUAL one, just that within your set, your QUANTITY is one. Therfore, all youive proved is the same thing evolutionists have already proved, they don't understand mathematics and probability theory.

Perhaps you could show us an example of any mutation that has occurred that has had a positive effect on the organism for which the mutation occurred? After, evolution assumes we'll all be x-men sonme day?

Perhaps you'd care to explain how any organism evolved, or how all the necessary components to support a biological function all evolved at the same time.

64 posted on 01/13/2002 12:14:56 PM PST by Diplomat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: M.T. Cicero
Many times less than the last 100 years.
65 posted on 01/13/2002 12:17:23 PM PST by Diplomat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: Gumlegs
What would you guess that the soup du jour would be for that day? ;^)
66 posted on 01/13/2002 12:19:16 PM PST by mikrofon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 54 | View Replies]

Comment #67 Removed by Moderator

To: aculeus
bump for later
68 posted on 01/13/2002 12:22:36 PM PST by JediGirl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: aculeus
He was the originator of the most dangerous idea in history. He disenfranchised God as our creator and revealed the animal origins of humanity. Many believe his influence was pernicious and evil.

I guess people with no imagination have to blame evil on somebody. Sure, people have abused his theory and applied it to areas to which it had no business being applied, but that sounds more like a personal problem to me.

69 posted on 01/13/2002 12:25:46 PM PST by JediGirl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diplomat
Perhaps you'd care to explain how any organism evolved, or how all the necessary components to support a biological function all evolved at the same time.

Back in post 13 I gave you a link to an exhaustive listing of all our prior discussions on those very subjects. I suggest you pause to take a look. Generally, organisms evolve due to the mechanisms of mutation and natural selection. There are numerous texts written for those who are just beginning to approach the subject of evolution, and I think you ought to take the time to become familiar with some of the basic principles involved.

As for your question about "all the necessary components to support a biological function all evolved at the same time," I assume you are paraphrasing Behe's argument, which has been debunked to death. Please see some of the many links on this by visiting post 13 and checking that site out. You may be astounded to learn -- but you ought to learn -- that the stuff you're reciting is nothing but junk science.

70 posted on 01/13/2002 12:27:07 PM PST by PatrickHenry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

Comment #71 Removed by Moderator

To: Exnihilo
Atheism in 99.5% of the case = anti-religionism. It's true. And judging from history, wherever atheistic governments were founded, religionists (and usually everyone else) has suffered immeasurably.

Atheists are hilarious because they do in fact say that "Becasue evil exists, God cannot." Well, if you study Judaism and Christianity even minimally (which I think that as an atheist, you are obligated to study, if you are going to come to a conclusion on religion),you would know that God gave us free will, which is what allows us to do evil or good. It's a total non-starter as an argument, and absolutely pathetic that an atheist would use it.
72 posted on 01/13/2002 12:29:51 PM PST by Conservative til I die
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: f.Christian
Creationists are like Marxists.

Funny. Non-religionists like the Marxists were responsible for a 1/10 of a billion brutal murders this century.

I'm not a creationist myself, mind you.

73 posted on 01/13/2002 12:30:57 PM PST by Conservative til I die
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]

To: toddhisattva
A religion founded on itself, worship of man, or the Superman as it may be.

As a religion, it ranks somewhere near Scientology, not Christianity.
74 posted on 01/13/2002 12:32:12 PM PST by Conservative til I die
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | View Replies]

Comment #75 Removed by Moderator

To: M.T. Cicero
Right, your bias against Christians always has to go back 100s of year for justification, ours only has to look around to OUR lifetime. I suppose we should give marxism another 500 years to see how many more they can kill.

As a side note, my understanding of the 30 years war is a little shakey. Please correct any wrong assumption I make. I thought the Germans (Protestants, Catholics and Calvinists) were fighting a civil war amongst themselves for control of Bavaria, etc. Upon seeing the weakened state of the Germans, surrounding nations invaded for the purpose of capturing territory. Thus, what percentages of the deaths would you contribute to Christians?

76 posted on 01/13/2002 12:34:04 PM PST by Diplomat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: Conservative til I die
"What men... believe---really matters!"
77 posted on 01/13/2002 12:36:48 PM PST by f.Christian
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

Comment #78 Removed by Moderator

Comment #79 Removed by Moderator

To: Diplomat
Your math is bogus because you never prove that you or marilyn EQUAL one, just that within your set, your QUANTITY is one. Therfore, all youive proved is the same thing evolutionists have already proved, they don't understand mathematics and probability theory.

Read his post 55 again. Patrick was using sarcasm to critique your implicit assertion that the "math of intelligent design" is valid. It was really funny, because... well, if a joke needs to be explained... :-)

80 posted on 01/13/2002 12:40:32 PM PST by jennyp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 161-176 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson