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Much thanks to freepers who discovered this.
1 posted on 01/12/2002 8:23:19 AM PST by VRWC_minion
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2 posted on 01/12/2002 8:28:35 AM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion; Admin Moderator
Any chance you can copy/paste the original replies ?
3 posted on 01/12/2002 8:29:47 AM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion;deport;F.J. Mitchell ;Grampa Dave; imperator2; ken21; Kennard; Mahone; mombonn...
Here are the comments from the thread I had to pull before.

I thought this info would be better presented in new thread. Much thanks for Deports keen eye.

1 posted on 1/12/02 11:43 AM Eastern by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion

good work!

2 posted on 1/12/02 11:47 AM Eastern by ken21
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To: RaceBannon; MrSparkys; #1CTYankee; .303 Brit; 2nd amendment mama; 2Trievers; AGBRUHN; firebrand...

CT bump

3 posted on 1/12/02 11:48 AM Eastern by VRWC_minion
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Wow! Casts Liebermann's "concern" in a slightly different light, doesn't it?

Citicorp might be well advised to sit on Liebermann and give Enron a chance to restructure. Otherwise they might end with very little on the dollar for that 3 billion debt. With restructuring, they might eventually get it all back.

4 posted on 1/12/02 11:49 AM Eastern by xzins
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I really do believe there are far more Democrats whose knees are knocking over this whole thing.

5 posted on 1/12/02 11:53 AM Eastern by Mahone
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To: VRWC_minion

I am really sick of this guilt-by-association crap. If you know of documented wrongdoing by Lieberman or Bush put it out front, otherwise let's stop this childish association games. This rule should be applied by the media as well.

6 posted on 1/12/02 11:54 AM Eastern by imperator2
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Citigroup also gave $100,000 to Gore for President.

7 posted on 1/12/02 11:54 AM Eastern by wattsmag2
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To: VRWC_minion

I am really sick of this guilt-by-association crap. If you know of documented wrongdoing by Lieberman or Bush put it out front, otherwise let's stop this childish association games. This rule should be applied by the media as well.

8 posted on 1/12/02 11:55 AM Eastern by imperator2
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indexing

9 posted on 1/12/02 11:56 AM Eastern by testforecho
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i'm not sure i can shop at riteaid again!

10 posted on 1/12/02 11:56 AM Eastern by ken21
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MAJOR BUMP, VRWC!!!!!!!

I won't hold my breath waiting for Tim Russert or Sammy Donaldson to ask whinin' Joe about this connection, though!!!

11 posted on 1/12/02 11:57 AM Eastern by Recovering_Democrat
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The investigation is of "great public interest, not partisan interest," said Lieberman, the chairman of the Governmental Affairs Committee, which includes Levin's subcommittee.


Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-Conn., the full committee's chairman, promised Wednesday "a search for the truth, not a witch hunt." But he did not rule out an examination of Enron's relationships with the Bush administration.

12 posted on 1/12/02 11:59 AM Eastern by VRWC_minion
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grow up and see the light your rat friends are going down. LOL

13 posted on 1/12/02 11:59 AM Eastern by TLBSHOW
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To: VRWC_minion

Thanks for posting this.

On another thread, we can read about Rubin's involvement to save Enron in his new role which ties in with your thread!

(Rubin Sought Aid for Enron!)

These lying left wing scumbags can't get by with their latest attempt to make GW look bad! We now have the internet and Fox News to get the truth out!

If they had a brain, they would let the AG's office investigate this. Lets hope that they hang themselves on this like Da$$hole did with his tax increase scheme!

14 posted on 1/12/02 12:00 PM Eastern by Grampa Dave
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Ping!

15 posted on 1/12/02 12:01 PM Eastern by Slip18
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I am really sick of this guilt-by-association crap.

Its not guilt by association its the appearanc of impropriety. Its the reason judges and others with an interest or a relationship in an issue recuse themsleves.

Lieberman should recuse himself from his committees investigation the same as Ashcroft if he wants to maintain public trust.

16 posted on 1/12/02 12:02 PM Eastern by VRWC_minion
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i'm not sure i can shop at riteaid again!

You beat me to it!

17 posted on 1/12/02 12:03 PM Eastern by mombonn
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Thanks for the post but I must give credit to the Freeper from which I saw it first.

"Pete" a freeper posted it here first in summary form. ... Link to 2002 data .. other years can be secured by selecting different election cycles. Citigroup first appeared on his contribution list in the 1998 cycle...

18 posted on 1/12/02 12:04 PM Eastern by deport
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Enron smells like a Billy Saul Estes Jr.clone at first whiff. Was it every anything more than a paper titan facade?

19 posted on 1/12/02 12:06 PM Eastern by F.J. Mitchell
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I am really sick of this guilt-by-association crap

The best defense is an offense.

20 posted on 1/12/02 12:06 PM Eastern by Kennard
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4 posted on 01/12/2002 8:32:20 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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A clinton connection ?

A Treasury spokesperson said Rubin, now chairman of the executive committee of a banking conglomerate with hundreds of millions of dollars of exposure to the Enron collapse, Citigroup, called Under Secretary for Domestic Finance Peter Fisher to ask what he thought of Fisher contacting the ratings agencies to encourage them to "worth with" Citibank and other Enron banks.

7 posted on 01/12/2002 8:45:05 AM PST by VRWC_minion
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Tomasso Brothers

Tomato, Tomasso. They still give me heart burn. :)

10 posted on 01/12/2002 8:49:51 AM PST by VA Advogado
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Friday January 11, 8:58 pm Eastern Time

Citi's Rubin called Treasury on Enron behalf-Tsy

(UPDATE: adds Rubin response, background)

WASHINGTON, Jan 11 (Reuters) - Citigroup Inc. (NYSE:C - news) executive and ex-Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin called a top Treasury Department official on behalf of troubled Enron Corp. (NYSE:ENE - news) in early November, the Treasury Department said on Friday.

The call was the second disclosure by Treasury on Friday of apparent attempts to lobby Treasury Under Secretary for Domestic Finance Peter Fisher on Enron's behalf.

Earlier Friday, the Treasury said Enron President Lawrence ``Greg'' Whalley had called Fisher and Fisher ``inferred'' Whalley wanted Fisher to ask banks to extend credit to the now-bankrupt energy-trading behemoth.

Treasury spokeswoman Michele Davis told reporters that Rubin had asked Fisher on Nov. 8, ``what he thought of the idea of Fisher placing a call to rating agencies to encourage them to work with Enron's bankers to see if there is an alternative to an immediate downgrade.''

``Fisher responded that he didn't think it advisable to make such a call. Rubin said he thought that was a reasonable position. Fisher made no such call,'' Davis said.

Michael Schlein, a Rubin spokesman, said Davis' version as ``largely accurate.''

He said Rubin began the call by noting ``this may not be a good idea,'' and ended it in agreement with Fisher that it was not a good idea.

``Bob thought an Enron bankruptcy was an event of national importance and ... avoiding it was a good thing,'' Schlein said.

Rubin is chairman of the executive committee of financial services giant Citigroup Inc. Citigroup had a financial exposure to Enron but on Nov. 30 ratings agency Moody's Investors Services said the exposure was ``manageable.''

Citigroup and J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. (NYSE:JPM - news) were lead advisors on Houston-based Enron's planned merger with Dynegy Inc. (NYSE:DYN - news), which ended up falling apart. Analysts have estimated that Citigroup had about $800 million of exposure to the failed merger, including about $300 million of unsecured exposure.

Rubin served as the 70th Treasury Secretary, holding the post from Jan. 10, 1995, to July 2, 1999. His tenure was widely regarded as a successful one, as he helped preside over the economic boom of the nineties and was an influential shaper of President Clinton's economic policies.

11 posted on 01/12/2002 8:54:02 AM PST by Howlin
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Shouldn't this mean that Pious Joe with a Banana in his nose should be asking himself instead of the President, "What did I know and when did I know it?" as he slips onto the floor on the Enron Peel?

Shouldn't the next time some airhead blow-dried TV anchorboytoy says "Enron's dealings [are] fast becoming the biggest potential embarrassment the Bush administration has faced," he should also say, "Oh yes, it is fast becoming embarrassment Pious Joe's, the man investigating Enron's funny money, biggest too." Can Tim Russert even spell CONFLICT OF INTEREST when it regards one of his buddy's from the DNC, or is Russert just a DNC puppet on a string? You decide....

I turst eveyone read the Washington Times Article on how Enron sought Clinton's help for project in India. Could it be that Slick will have the biggest banana of all sticking out of his already egotisitical bulbous nose?

13 posted on 01/12/2002 9:02:48 AM PST by prometheus
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Another good Enron post. This all reminds me of a quote from an old Mississippi? politician/businessman whose name escapes me. He was caught paying off a Federal Judge to throw a smuggling case against his son. His Quote:

This is just like a bucket of sh!t. The more you stir it, the more it stinks

The Rats will deeply regret this cheap attempt to make a Whitewater out of Enron.

14 posted on 01/12/2002 9:05:42 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER
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I know of a former Arthur Anderson accountant that went from zero (and he was a real zero) to $10 million, in net value, back in the late '80's and early '90's. He did it by opening a natural gas transportation and management firm. His biggest supplier was Enron.

Coincidence?

15 posted on 01/12/2002 9:06:46 AM PST by 4Freedom
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Well, that little discovery kinda puts the pep in the gumbo now doesn't it?
19 posted on 01/12/2002 9:26:49 AM PST by sweetliberty
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Thank you sir! This needs bumped and bumped and wide circulation!
20 posted on 01/12/2002 9:44:18 AM PST by PhiKapMom
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Play this one up hard!

Mr. Liberman, were you ever asked by your largest campaign contributor, Citigroup, to look into the Enron matter.

Did Citigroup ever contact you in connection with the billions of dollars they stand to loose in Enron, ask you or your staff to step in on their behalf?

Mr. Lieberman, some people are questioning whether you could have simply stood by and watched as your largest campaign contributor, Citigroup, lost billions of dollars inEnron. What do you say to those people that would accuse you of having some hand in the growing Enron scandal?

Mr. Lieberman, I hate to bring this up, but as you know, Enron's employees have lost a lot of money, some their entire life's savings. What critics are saying is that your involvement in this scandal on behalf of one your contributors, in fact your largest campaign contributor, Citigroup, may have in some way caused Enron employees to loose more money than they would have lost otherwise?

Mr. Lieberman, how do you answer these critic, how do you answer to the financially ruined Enron employees that your involvement helped Citigroup reduce its losses while making the Enron employee losses worse?

Senator Lieberman, will you resign?

22 posted on 01/12/2002 9:46:12 AM PST by BJungNan
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Before you continue with this, you may want to consider that Enron contributed 2 million dollars to the Bush campaign. You must then apply the same yardstick to Bush, and I do not see any wrongdoing on Bush's part other than to receive a campaign contribution. It would have to be proven that special favors were granted.

The Enron problem is far greater than campaign contributions. The culprits are the accountancy firm and greedy top executives.

39 posted on 01/12/2002 10:28:37 AM PST by Angelique
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To: VRWC_minion
Rubin as well is dirty in this.
47 posted on 01/12/2002 10:50:32 AM PST by Osinski
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To: VRWC_minion
bump
49 posted on 01/12/2002 10:53:17 AM PST by rwfromkansas
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Joe, I find this very troubling. Very troubling.
58 posted on 01/12/2002 11:10:59 AM PST by Hugh Akston
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Bump, The last moderator thought this was good enough for breaking what happened ?
65 posted on 01/12/2002 12:04:12 PM PST by VRWC_minion
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bttt
67 posted on 01/12/2002 1:22:47 PM PST by VRWC_minion
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Joe Lieberman's Largest Contributor is Enron's Largest Creditor
71 posted on 01/12/2002 1:32:29 PM PST by VRWC_minion
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Leiberman has always looked and sounded like Marvin the Martian...and I don't care of That's Not a *Bit* Nice!
81 posted on 01/12/2002 5:25:19 PM PST by Mamzelle
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