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Jim Robinson & FR accused of censorship
WhatReallyHappened.com ^ | 4 January 2002 | WRH.com goobers

Posted on 01/04/2002 10:01:12 PM PST by Vigilant1

FREE REPUBLIC ADMITS IT IS PRO-WAR AND CENSORS ALL POSTS NOT IN ACCORD WITH US GOVERNMENT PROPAGANDA

NOW MAKING THE ROUNDS ON THE NET. Cited under "fair use" for educational purposes.

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Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 02:50:39 -0800
From: "Jim Robinson"
Organization: Free Republic
To: "Larry McDonald"
Subject: Re: What Are You Scared Of?

Those who are coming in here to post a bunch of propaganda to smear Bush or otherwise harm the war effort are going to be deleted.

I guess you missed my posts where I said that I am 100% behind our President and the war. I don't care if it's Ron Paul, Larry McDonald, or the head of the John Birch Society himself. I do not want it on FR. And I do not want a bunch of 40 year old conspiracy crap. Not interested.
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There you have it. Free Republic is not an objective reporter of the facts but a blatent supporter of the Bush administrations' war for oil, and by Jim Robinson's own admission.

In another post, Jim states...

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Jim Robinson (Free Republic)
by JIM ROBINSON in This thread

Lots of grumbling lately about deleted posts. Well, my friends, the simple truth is the game has changed. We are now at war.
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Of course, Jim Robinson has it wrong. We're not at war. Only Congress can state otherwise and there has been no formal declaration of war by anyone. Bush hasn't gone to Congress to ask for such a declaration because that would restore Congress to its role in the balance of powers doctrine on which the nation was founded. Bush has no intention of allowing Congress to second-guess him, and indeed Bush has flat out declared that he will not bother informing Congress of intelligence operations from this point forward as is required by law.

Yes, we have been attacked, but it's not really known by whom. Even the FBI admits the IDs on which they based their accusations were faked using the stolen identities of middle eastern Arabs, some of whom have since turned up alive. From this it should be obvious that we cannot really know who was on those planes, only who we are supposed to blame.

But Jim Robinson isn't interested in these facts. He's spiked threads pointing out that the FBI admitted the IDs used by the hijackers were phony. Jim Robinson has spiked threads about how some of the accused hijackers have turned up alive. Jim Robinson has spiked many of the threads dealing with the Israeli spy scandal and the fact that the US has classified evidence linking some of the arrested Israeli spies with the events of 9/11. Jim Robinson has spiked threads suggestng that Bush has exceeed his constitutional authority. Jim Robinson will tolerate no doubts about the righteousness of Bush's war for oil.

But more than that, Jim Robinson displays an arrogant assumption that the presence of a war justifies anything. He argues that we should get behind the government because (he claims) there is a war. But translate that to Germany of 1939. Was it the right thing for the German people to unquestioningly back Hitler because there was a war on? Or would the German people (and the world) have been better served taking a pause and a closer look at just what the government was doing? And if Germany should have examined their government's claims a lot closer, then how can we not do the same now?

Free Republic has shown its true colors. Jim is "not interested" in facts, only in selling Bush's wars. Free Republic isn't about news any more, only about propaganda.


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To: Vigilant1
Of course, Jim Robinson has it wrong. We're not at war.

Tell it to the Marines. Or the Army. Or the grieving families of 911. Or, for that matter, the dead Taliban leaders.

301 posted on 01/05/2002 10:39:36 AM PST by aculeus
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To: Vigilant1
2 points, first the obvious one: this is Mr. Robinson's site, and if he doesn't like someone's ideas, grammar, or tone of voice, he isn't under the slightest obligation to let them hang around, any more than he would be in his own house.

Second, as I understand the blurb on the front page of FR, this is not meant to be a general chat site. It has a pragmatic goal: to be a place where people Mr. Robinson considers conservatives can put their heads together and plot the good of America. I think the problem on FR now is that there are too many totally incompatible viewpoints butting heads here, so that on lots of threads there's no room for the kind of strategizing and thinking things through together that was visible here during the Florida election crisis - just total war with those who think America's war against terrorism is "Satanic" and that Palestine ought to be Judenrein. So I would think it perfectly understandable if Mr. Robinson were even more restrictive -- even if it meant cutting me out, it would make the Forum more efficient for the goals for which he founded it.

People who come on a privately-owned website and then whine "censorship" when the owner doesn't choose to let them perform there should get no respect from anyone with a more than one-cell brain.

302 posted on 01/05/2002 10:47:18 AM PST by Southern Federalist
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Those of us below President Johnson and his advisors were at war. What we didn't realize at the time was that they weren't.
303 posted on 01/05/2002 10:53:12 AM PST by sailor4321
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To: hannosh4LtGovernor
Scary stuff. Censorship of ideas is a page right out of the NKVD, Stalin's secret police. I expect more from FreeRepublic. Looks like the NWO is everywhere. Time to find a discussion site that treats the first amendment better than toilet paper. Any suggestions?

Yes. Read The Gulag Archipelago -- again and again, if necessary -- until you can tell JimRob from Yezhov.

If still unable to make that distinction, trot your campaign someplace else.

304 posted on 01/05/2002 11:07:38 AM PST by dighton
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To: Southern Federalist
People who come on a privately-owned website and then whine "censorship" when the owner doesn't choose to let them perform there should get no respect from anyone with a more than one-cell brain.

Agreed! I've seen a few of Michael Rivero's posts here. This guy makes the worst Art Bell foil-hat X-Files nuts around look good. (I'm not trying to insult people who watch the X-files in general, just some of the people who watch it and think that it's a documentary, not fictional entertainment.)

Mikey's just bent out of shape because J.R. told him to take it somewhere else.

305 posted on 01/05/2002 11:11:18 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: hannosh4LtGovernor
Don't let the door hit you on the way out. May I suggest the DU. Seems to be more your style.
306 posted on 01/05/2002 11:12:42 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Commie Basher
>> I guess you missed my posts where I said that I am 100% behind our President and the war. <<

You're demonstrating the problems of taking a sound-byte (post-byte?) without understanding the context of the post that it was taken out of.

I know it's a real drag to have to abide by rules. Deal with it.

307 posted on 01/05/2002 11:15:48 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Vigilant1
Was it the right thing for the German people to unquestioningly back Hitler because there was a war on? Or would the German people (and the world) have been better served taking a pause and a closer look at just what the government was doing?

How absurd to compare President Bush to Hitler! It's the same as comparing good to evil--however, the good only shows how evil the evil was.

308 posted on 01/05/2002 11:18:03 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: sinkspur
Mike is hardly an Art Bell that makes money selling ideas.
309 posted on 01/05/2002 11:28:42 AM PST by Buckeroo
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
...so let the author put that in his pipe and smoke it

After extensively reading his website, I've come to the conclusion that the last thing he needs is more to smoke.
310 posted on 01/05/2002 11:34:50 AM PST by BJClinton
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To: kylaka
The truth, as always lies somewhere in between.

NOT in the case of mr -

- he HAS an agenda and seeks to FULFILL that agenda at every opportunity.

Now as to my 'loopiness' - better back that up with a cite (here, I'll help you with that: post a LINK to ANYTHING that is 'far out' here on FR) or risk being called an outright liar and a slanderer of the first order ...

311 posted on 01/05/2002 11:53:40 AM PST by _Jim
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To: alcuin
Please repost your#295 into a noteworthy expression. I don't understand your post.
312 posted on 01/05/2002 11:55:00 AM PST by Buckeroo
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To: _Jim
I'll be your "huckleberry."
313 posted on 01/05/2002 11:56:54 AM PST by Buckeroo
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To: 1st_Amendment
Get a life.
315 posted on 01/05/2002 12:28:20 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: 1st_Amendment
"If the Higgins oxygen burns up her little lungs, let her seek some stuffiness that suits her!"-Professor Higgins, My Fair Lady
316 posted on 01/05/2002 12:30:56 PM PST by pubmom
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To: 1st_Amendment
I see it as Jim Rob allowing us in his home for a while to chew the fat- if he doesnt like what kind of tone were using or our name - thats his right to toss us out - FR is his property - He lets us come here - If it were a public entity, public rules would apply - until then, we abide by private property rights (LLC) of course.

Arent you done dissenting - If you dont care for it -return to DU or L.C or the liberal rag newspaper you came from

317 posted on 01/05/2002 12:33:47 PM PST by Revelation 911
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To: 1st_Amendment;howlin
BWAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh too funny. And if you had left your balls on, what regular FR screen name would you have used?
318 posted on 01/05/2002 12:34:59 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Revelation 911
I think what we have here is an excommunicated member of FR.
319 posted on 01/05/2002 12:35:28 PM PST by pubmom
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To: 1st_Amendment
Me, I like the 2nd Amendment best.
320 posted on 01/05/2002 12:35:44 PM PST by patriciaruth
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