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PERVASIVE PERSECUTION OF CHRISTIANS IN INDIA (my title)
Chicago Tribune ^ | October 29th, 1999 | Uli Schmetzer

Posted on 12/30/2001 6:14:13 PM PST by Justin Raimondo

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:49 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The mob arrived armed with knives and clubs while Rev. Joy Punnose addressed the 120 missionaries gathered in the small town of Dohad in northern Gujarat, an Indian state where Christians have become almost daily targets for Hindu mobs.

The kicks, punches and slaps that followed were not unusual in the northern part of this country, the so-called Hindu belt, where dozens of Christian churches went up in smoke this year, an Australian missionary and his two sons were burned alive, another priest was beaten to death, nuns have been gang-raped, congregations terrorized and priests made to walk naked through village streets.


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To: Justin Raimondo
P.S. The current goverment of India is formed by National Democratic Alliance (NDA) which is made up of more than half-dozen political parties - and BJP had to forgo all its political and Ideological issues in order to join NDA - NDA has its own menifesto that includes none of BJP programs or issues. (Kudos to halflion.)
21 posted on 12/30/2001 7:38:24 PM PST by codeword
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To: Alamo-Girl;mommadooo3
I'd like to see the year 2001 quote of "President" Clinton's protest against church burnings.
22 posted on 12/30/2001 8:27:46 PM PST by First_Salute
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To: First_Salute
Not 2001, but from the DSL:

Wall Street Journal 9/2/98 Clifford Alexander "When he's in trouble, and even when he's not, Bill Clinton is known to play fast and furious with issues of race. He did it again last Friday in Martha's Vineyard, Mass., in a speech commemorating the 35th anniversary of the civil rights March on Washington. Mr. Clinton said the following: "Most of us who are old enough remember exactly where we were on Aug. 28, 1963. I was in my living room in Hot Springs, Ark. I remember the chair I was sitting in; I remember exactly where it was in the room; I remember exactly the position of the chair when I sat and watched on national television the great March on Washington unfold. I remember weeping uncontrollably during Martin Luther King's speech, and I remember thinking when it was over, my country would never be the same and neither would I." So spoke the man who in January could not remember whether he had been alone with Monica Lewinsky a few weeks earlier. And it wasn't the first time Mr. Clinton had suspiciously vivid memories on matters concerning race in America. On an earlier occasion he gravely told the nation of his vivid memory of church burnings in Arkansas when he was growing up. Journalists' inquiries revealed that there were no church burnings in Arkansas during Mr. Clinton's early years.. In his Martha's Vineyard speech he even compared himself to Nelson Mandela and Dr. King.."

The American Spectator 5/00 Mark Steyn “…… One typical March weekend in Brooklyn: Vandals smash the face and arms of a marble shrine to Our Lady of Fatima at St. Gregory's Rornan Catholic Church. The same night, a wooden image of Christ is torn down from the cross and broken into pieces at St. Francis of Assisi-St. Blaise Church. For parishioners at St. Francis, it was the second assault on their church in little more than two months: In January, the statues of both Francis and Our Lady of Fatima were decapitated. But so what? This kind of thing is becoming routine. A dozen Catholic churches have been desecrated in Brooklyn in the last six months - though, in a belated attempt at ecumenicalisrn, in the last week of March an Episcopal church was targeted, too. The media, happy to hop on Jesse Jackson's and Bill Clinton's bandwagon and be taken for a ride about an entirely mythical spate of black church burnings a couple of years back, are largely indifferent to the actual, real assaults on churches which occur every day ..”

23 posted on 12/30/2001 8:41:08 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
A dozen Catholic churches have been desecrated in Brooklyn in the last six months - though, in a belated attempt at ecumenicalisrn, in the last week of March an Episcopal church was targeted, too.

Any suspects? Any theories about why this is happening?

24 posted on 12/30/2001 8:45:13 PM PST by codeword
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To: Alamo-Girl
"The media, happy to hop on Jesse Jackson's and Bill Clinton's bandwagon and be taken for a ride about an entirely mythical spate of black church burnings a couple of years back, are largely indifferent to the actual, real assaults on churches which occur every day"

Nice catch; and thank you.

25 posted on 12/30/2001 8:48:57 PM PST by First_Salute
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To: codeword
Sorry, I don't have followup information on the incidents...
26 posted on 12/30/2001 8:54:36 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: First_Salute
You're quite welcome! Hugs!!!
27 posted on 12/30/2001 8:55:58 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Justin Raimondo
The persecution, rape, and murder of Christians in Indonesia is much, much, much worse than this and has been for years.

But don't hold your breath waiting for Justin Raimondo to cry for them.

Why?

Could it be because their murderers are MUSLIM?

Oh, c'mon Montag, you don't think he's biased, do you?

28 posted on 12/30/2001 8:57:59 PM PST by montag813
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To: Justin Raimondo

Published: October 29th, 1999


29 posted on 12/30/2001 9:02:09 PM PST by RippleFire
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To: codeword
Buddhists, Hindus, Moslems and Jews do not condemn all other religions as evil.

WHAT? Have you lived your life in a cave?
30 posted on 12/30/2001 9:16:05 PM PST by Thorondir
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To: codeword
Unfortunately, Christianity does not see other religions in this way. This is due, in part, to one of the remarks of its founder to the effect that "No one comes to the Father but by me." Christianity has wonderful ethical teachings, but this is not one of them.

It's wonderful if in fact it is true.

31 posted on 12/30/2001 9:16:14 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: codeword
"No one comes to the Father but by me." Christianity has wonderful ethical teachings, but this is not one of them.

Then you won't get to God. That is your choice which I respect as it is your free will to do so.

Let me ask of you just one question. What religion is the only religion that does not require works to get to the goal?

32 posted on 12/30/2001 9:16:36 PM PST by jwh_Denver
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To: codeword
Unfortunately, Christianity does not see other religions in this way. This is due, in part, to one of the remarks of its founder to the effect that "No one comes to the Father but by me." Christianity has wonderful ethical teachings, but this is not one of them.

"My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:" John 10:27

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." John 8:44

Although you repudiate Jesus Christ and his message, in a back-handed manner you show him more honor than do liberal Christians who teach the lie that he was tolerant in the way they are tolerant.

You have correctly discerned that Jesus Christ was anything but wishy-washy, feckless, equivocal, and compromising. Now, if you possessed spiritual wisdom and insight you would see and understand that Jesus Christ's ethics--especially on this point--surpass anything any man has ever taught or lived. There is deeper wisdom here than you know or can know. I pray that perhaps someday you will.

33 posted on 12/30/2001 9:34:27 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: Black Steel;BrooklynGOP
All those cheering on an Indian attack on Pakistan because the latter is Mohammedan ought to read this article. Idol worshipers known as Hindus aren't much better.
34 posted on 12/30/2001 9:52:02 PM PST by traditionalist
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To: codeword
Buddhists, Hindus, Moslems and Jews do not condemn all other religions as evil.

What planet are we talking about here?

35 posted on 12/30/2001 9:56:15 PM PST by LarryLied
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To: Justin Raimondo
Hindu fundamentalism -- it isn't pretty.

And what do you know of Hindu fundamentalism?

36 posted on 12/30/2001 10:14:25 PM PST by keri
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To: traditionalist
If I had my personal choice of what non-Christians I had to live among, I would choose Hindus over Moslems in a heartbeat. That doesn't make one the less "pagan" than the other, but the Hindus do not have page after page in their religious writings urging them to take over the world by storm and slaughter.
37 posted on 12/30/2001 10:22:59 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: LarryLied;Thorondir
What planet are we talking about here?

Planet earth.

Now instead of asking silly questions, why don't you try to refute me?

Give me one example, even from our worst enemies from other religions--e.g., Osama Bin Laden, the Taliban, Al Qaeda, or from extreme Hindu fundamentalists such as former BJP Indian Prime Minister Desai---anyone from the other major religions--who claims that Christianity is an evil religion.

You can't. Because they don't say that.

They say that America is evil and that Americans are evil, or that they have an evil government. But they do not condemn the religion of Christianity--unlike Christians, who condemn every other religion as evil.

I challenge you to find one example to disprove my point.

That would be a contribution to this discussion. So far you have contributed nothing at all except incredulity. Don't just say an idea is ridiculous. Say why.

38 posted on 12/30/2001 10:42:59 PM PST by codeword
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Hindus do not have page after page in their religious writings urging them to take over the world by storm and slaughter.

I see you haven't read the Vedas. Not quite as bad as the Koran, I admit, but they're not about peace and love, I'll tell you that much.

39 posted on 12/30/2001 10:45:34 PM PST by traditionalist
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To: codeword
You are quite mistaken. Just last week Jews in Israel were burning copies of the New Testament. Mohammedan clerics regularly call Christians idoloters. The BJP party has said some pretty scewering things about Christians. If you want a source, let me know. I'll go dig it up.
40 posted on 12/30/2001 10:47:39 PM PST by traditionalist
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