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To: AgThorn
Let's separate the drivers license issue from the guest worker discussion.

To me, they're related in the sense that if you're here illegally, drivers licenses or Consulate ID's now being accepted for bank accounts etc lend legitimacy to a group of people who live in the shadows sort of speak. By keeping the immigration system, including any potential guest worker programs legal, then appropriate forms of ID's, including drivers licences wouldn't be a problem. I don't blame the immigrants themselves as much as an ineffective government that refuses for whatever reason to confront this whole mess and get the situation under control. Their only solution to date seems to be neverending amnesties and other goodies which only encourage more illegal immigration.

29 posted on 12/26/2001 8:05:27 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
To me, they're related in the sense that if you're here illegally, drivers licenses or Consulate ID's now being accepted for bank accounts etc lend legitimacy to a group of people who live in the shadows sort of speak. By keeping the immigration system, including any potential guest worker programs legal, then appropriate forms of ID's, including drivers licences wouldn't be a problem. I don't blame the immigrants themselves as much as an ineffective government that refuses for whatever reason to confront this whole mess and get the situation under control. Their only solution to date seems to be neverending amnesties and other goodies which only encourage more illegal immigration.
How and why would we want to NOT allow Consulate ID's for bank accounts? I mean, the "legitimate" people that are here as guests (passports, green cards, consulate, etc.) do need a way of living, I would guess.

Further, in getting back to state drivers licenses, I do believe Tennessee (and one other state, can't remember) is already doing what Georgia is proposing to do. i.e. giving drivers licenses to illegal. This is a very dangerous practice that I think you and I are in agreement on.

In fact, I do think my sentiments and yours match very closely. Perhaps it is only a difference of looking at "the glass as half empty versus half full."

As a resident of California, I am simply in belief that you can't just export all the illegal's. Some "different" solution is needed, and the current one being discussed is "guest worker." Problem being that we can't control the illegal's now, it will be even more difficult (most likely) if we come up with some new category of being here.

I WOULD feel that IF (and that's a big IF) we end up with a "guest worker" program, it must be defined, controlled, and federally mandated not state mandated. The biggest problem we have with such a proposal, although it has great sentimental value and is good for PR with Mexico, is that none of this is laid out. You can't have Texas, Arizona or California be in control (for example) of how many guest workers there are, etc.

31 posted on 12/27/2001 9:03:32 AM PST by AgThorn
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