Debate over licenses for illegal immigrants heats up - [Freep this poll!!]

Atlanta Constitution ^ | 12.22.2001 | Mark Bixler

[american spirit]

Friend, I like the way you talk. Couldn't have said any better myself.

[nicmarlo]

Should driver's licenses be granted to illegal immigrants?
Yes 11% 781
No 89% 6329
Total Votes 7110
The liberal Atlanta Constitution may be unhappy with these results.

[philetus]

Fidel Castro Ruz Says US Should Return Aztlan Back to Mexico

MEXICO CITY -- Cuban President Fidel Castro said that the United States should return to Mexico huge chunks of that country's territories it acquired more than a century ago.
In a fiery 90-minute speech, the Cuban leader claimed that the United States wrongly appropriated more than half of Mexico's territory, mostly through successive invasions.
These include Texas, California, Arizona, and New Mexico.

"Now, they are terrorized because Mexicans cross'' into what is properly their territory, Castro said.
He said that in effect, Mexicans are reconquering their own land.
Castro's comments were contained in a speech he gave at the close of an international congress of educators in Havana, the Cuban capital, including several hundred teachers from Mexico.
Excerpts were contained in a dispatches from Havana by the Mexican government news agency Notimex and other news sources, in Mexico City.

[ChiMark]

It's true. The government is bent on this nihlistic approach to law and justice. It is sad to see how our values of right and wrong have erroded. Don't they understand what " illegal " means? It is in concert with that issue of the murder rate in Chicago Numero uno. The ultra liberal policies of the day seem to punish the good law abiding moral people. And these liberals tell us "they care".

[ChiMark]

It's true. The government is bent on this nihlistic approach to law and justice. It is sad to see how our values of right and wrong have erroded. Don't they understand what " illegal " means? It is in concert with that issue of the murder rate in Chicago Numero uno. The ultra liberal policies of the day seem to punish the good law abiding moral people. And these liberals tell us "they care".

[PatrioticAmerican]

90% - NO!

[LLMiller]

Mexcio pulling away from Latin America

"There is no question Mexico is moving northward," said Gray Newman, chief Latin America economist at Morgan Stanley in New York.

[PatrioticAmerican]

"IN ORDER TO GET ON A PLANE YOU HAVE TO SHOW PICTURE ID - USUALLY A DRIVER'S LICENSE. "

Then let them use their Mexican passport or Mexican ID. Illegals do not need to fly when they most likely walked or drove across the border. Let 'em walk back!

[Right_in_Virginia]

"Illegals don't need driver's licenses. They need to be rounded up and repatriated."

Short, sweet and to the point. Well said!

(The poll still shows 90% saying "No".)

[Qwinn]

Wow.

Just... wow.

Drags up a 20 month old thread and goes ballistic defending the rights of non-citizens to citizen's rights.

Uses the "racist" bit. There's a shock.

Thinks that we the people should be grateful to those who blatantly violated our laws in order to live in the society we built.

Doesn't think for a moment that if illegal immigration was reduced, the number of legal immigrants allowed to enter the country could be increased.

Ignores how many illegal aliens take advantage of health care, education and other benefits that they paid no taxes for. Probably thinks we should pay more, actually.

If the government is hiring illegal aliens to pave our roads, I have an issue with that. Please let me know where you've seen the government hiring illegal aliens, I'd like to lodge a protest.

Lastly and most importantly, I noted no rage or calls of "Racist!" aimed at Democrats when they blacklisted Linda Chavez in 2000 from becoming Secretary of Labor because she once hired an illegal alien and treated her quite well.

Qwinn
Child of Legal Immigrants

[ctonious]

The absolute worst thing this kind of thing does is engender a profound disdain for the law - among the people these pompous pinheads can't do without. Because when the capable and productive say "Hey, screw this law-abiding crap - I'm gonna cut in line just like everybody else", then the center will not hold. And both parties are stampeding and elbowing each other to open the door for these illegals. Disgusting. Just absolutely disgusting.

[AgThorn]

uuhhmmm... lesseee...

People are in this country illegally and we have no way of knowing who they are or where they live....... they refuse to become "legal" citizens [or "legal" immigrants for that matter]....

And a "license to drive a car" will give us the info we could use...

Yeah... you far right wingies are right... it ain't a good idea.

Here we have anothere left brain thinking rationale for why we need illegal licenses, so we can know that they are illegal!!!! Uh huh ... I'm sure that's just what this is intended for, and let's use the only form of national ID we have to accomplish something that is easily down 100 other ways.

Your profile says you've been on line since '99 but you sure write like a newbee troll with this evident "deep thinking".

[Deep_6]

Re: "..you sure write like a newbee troll.."

Actually, I agree that anyone here illegally should
be sent back to their home country (if failing a 
at gaining any chance for political asylum here).

However... The cheap labor crossing the border
is of help to our economy. It's the extreme liberal
states that are causing the problem by granting
illegal aliens the privileges of our social assistance
network (schools, health care, compensation, etc).
That's an aberration of the intent of this nation's
founders; to provide necessary assistance where
needed, to the citizens and all those on our soil,
equally.

There is no "equal" to being a citizen of this fine
Nation. Those of us who are [citizens], can not
[Constitutionally] have our rights undermined by
others, especially by those who are not [citizens].

Does handing a driver's license to a non-citizen
impair your rights? No. Not as long as all the
license can be used for, is driving an automobile.

States that allow a driver's license to become
a standard or test to prove one's qualification to
all this Nation's Constitutionally protected rights
and government services, is doing so in an
unconstitutional manner.

The issue should not be "the issuing of a document
providing the right to drive legally". The issue should
be what that document is providing access to, that is
not within the scope of the intent of it's issuing.

A license to drive should not allow access to vote;
access to tax paid schools/schooling; access to tax paid
health care; access to any/all taxpayer provided services.

That's the issue. If it isn't, it should be.

 

[OutLaw81]

Why people do not want to give driver's license to illegal immigrants? according to History, the white race belongs to the old world( who came to KILL the Natives, invade, take over their land) not to the Americas. Illegal immigrants are what keep the U.S. wealthy. They work hard to earn their money. they are exploited and mistreated. One must put his/her feet in those people's shoes to see what it feels to be them!