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Poll: IF, and this is a BIG if...

Posted on 12/21/2001 6:52:48 PM PST by LSUsoph

Dick Cheney due to health reasons decides to withdrawl his name from the ticket in 2004 after a very successful term as Vice President. He figures he can still stay close to the President and advise him in any way possible, but not have to deal with the every day hustle of being the Vice-President of the country. So who would President Bush pick to be his new VP? I think Condi Rice would be a wonderful choice but I dont know if this country (especially the Republican Party) is ready for a VP who is black, a woman, and from the South (Alabama). I also love Powell but would he and Pres Bush be able to work hand in hand as P-VP? Donald Rumsfeld is a terrific Sec of Defense and I think he would make a great President one day...maybe him being VP could lead us to 8 great years of a Rumsfeld Presidency after 8 great years of Bush. Other candidates that come to mind would be Tom Ridge, Liddy Dole, Ashcroft, and dare i say it...JOHN MCCAIN ( i know, i know, but i think the Bush-MCcain ticket would be a shoe in). My pick would have to be Rice, she is worth her weight in Gold. She is a genius, works well with Bush, and would really be great for the country. And what would the naysayers say after Bush nominates a black woman to be his right hand WOMman?? I think they would just have to throw up the white flag! GO DUBYA!


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To: ladyinred
Nice try, ladies. Rummy is a true champion and hero. Puts everybody at ease when he talks. But he would never accept the job. He's too old, (not that he couldn't handle it), but too valuable right where he is, IMO. That's why he's there to begin with. This was an extremely excellent hand-picked administration with particular attention paid to specifics as to the highest job-fit capabilities.

Hey, but then I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time. Look at Cheney! He was no 'spring-chicken' pick for VP.

81 posted on 12/21/2001 8:17:26 PM PST by SlightOfTongue
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To: Capitalist Eric
I agree. I myself and staunchly pro-life, but I think too many people put too much stock in the abortion issue in a political sense. It really doesn't matter who's elected, abortion will be legal because the Supreme Court already decided it almost 30 years ago. Any Presidential candidate who pledges ending abortion is lying because he/she would NOT have that power as President.

The fact is that legality of abortion will never change unless the Constitution is amended or the Supreme Court is packed with staunchly pro-life justices. For either to occur there would have to be a major opinion shift in this country about outlawing abortion. Without public opinion swaying in the direction of the pro-life legislative agenda, it will be impossible to enact real pro-life legislation.

If you want to solve the abortion problem, don't look to politicians who say they're pro-life but are powerless to act upon it. Look to yourselves and convert people to your viewpoint on the pro-life cause.

If Condi Rice runs as the 2004 as the GOP VP nominee, I will easily support Bush/Rice in 2004. Condi Rice is a very capable leader who would be a great VP, regardless of her abortion stance. Because unless public opinion says 'outlaw abortion', abortion won't be outlawed, even is the 2004 winners is the Keyes/Bauer ticket.

82 posted on 12/21/2001 8:17:46 PM PST by JoeMomma
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To: Capitalist Eric
Yeah, thinking people like you.

Just a thought, but just calling yourself a "thinking person" does not make you one.

Incidentally, are you pro-choice? While it is true the republican party looses some votes over the abortion issue, even liberals admit that it is more than offset by the gains.

83 posted on 12/21/2001 8:18:50 PM PST by Dat
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To: rightofrush
I saddened to look through 57+ posts and not see Alan Keyes mentioned.

The political reality is that Alan Keyes is simply not electable. Senator, maybe. President, not a chance in hell. Vice-President? He would drag any ticket into oblivion.

The reason for this is very simple: Keyes has a very clear-cut, clearly articulated philosophy, which very clearly appeals to a minority of voters, but which does not appeal to the majority. In a very real sense, Keyes does not represent all Americans.

Highly talented, intelligent and articulate. Just not electable as President or VP.

84 posted on 12/21/2001 8:19:14 PM PST by butter pecan fan
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To: Capitalist Eric
Your facts have overwhelmed me. You may not trust exit polls, but I hope that some here may value them more than your completely unsupported angry rants.

As liberal Mark Shields has noted citing an exit poll conducted by the pro-abortion Los Angelas Times:

"Simply put, that translates into a Bush advantage on the abortion issue of 2.5 million votes in an election that Gore won nationally by more than 540,000 votes."

85 posted on 12/21/2001 8:20:41 PM PST by IM2Phat4U
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To: IM2Phat4U
Where are your facts?

Where are YOURS???

You quote a newspaper that is so flaky and ridiculous that no reasonable person would read it, much less be stupid enough to quote it...

Are you really going to try and debate the FACT that the president has NOTHING to do with Roe v. Wade?

Are you really going to try and argue that, even if Roe v. Wade were overturned, it wouldn't go RIGHT BACK TO THE STATES TO DECIDE???

Until you start dealing with reality, your dealing with fantasy.

Kind of like having a fantasy that people might respect your nonsensical, emotional attempts at debate...

Heh heh heh...

86 posted on 12/21/2001 8:21:13 PM PST by Capitalist Eric
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To: Capitalist Eric
Quick, name one fact on one of your posts on this thread.
87 posted on 12/21/2001 8:22:33 PM PST by Dat
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To: LSUsoph
Choice appears to have already been made-- and it's Ridge.

Why else would he have left his governorship in PA (one of 50 with your own militia--quite a fiefdom!) to be on the totem pole in DC. Furthermore, when I first heard the description of his job, I thought it sounded almost like a domestice vice-presidency, versus Cheney as more the international vice-president.

The most electable over the long run would be Bush/Powell, for all the obvious reasons. Maybe Powell's wife has grown more accustomed to the idea now that he has served as Sec of State. And for those who don't like Powell, you're outnumbered in the rest of the country by at least two-to-one.

88 posted on 12/21/2001 8:23:20 PM PST by MHT
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To: SentryoverAmerica
The FACT is that the Republicans lose voters on the abortion issue.

Not according to any reputable polls.

If abortion had been absolutely wiped off the 2000 election, George Bush would have easily defeated the slimeball, and the Republicans would be the majority in the U.S. Senate today.

In actual fact, according to the only poll cited in this thread, without abortion, Gore would have won a majority of 3 million votes, Gore would now be President, and the Republicans would have 46 seats in the US Senate.

89 posted on 12/21/2001 8:23:49 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Jhoffa_
Jhoffa_ said: "McCain has better chances than Liddy imo."

Perhaps. But I will never vote for a Republican who is not only anti-gun but who tries to make political points with it. McCain will never get my vote.

91 posted on 12/21/2001 8:24:26 PM PST by William Tell
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To: LSUsoph
Lets not get ahead of ourselves; things (domestic and foreign) are suffering from an enhanced state of entropy. I agree that Cheney may want or be forced because of health to get out of the limelight. Choices, hell lets see who steps out as this singular period of history plays out. McCain, EFHIM forever, he is in it for himself and don't EVER forget it!!! I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire in front of me; so much for him being across the street on so many of issues that are important to those here.
92 posted on 12/21/2001 8:25:04 PM PST by Atchafalaya
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To: Deport Billary
How does anyone think independents and undecided votors would react to Condi Rice for VP?
93 posted on 12/21/2001 8:25:55 PM PST by Momaw Nadon
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To: Capitalist Eric
They have no idea how ridiculous they look, to thinking people. Pathetic...

What a smug, arrogant, ba---rd, you are.

94 posted on 12/21/2001 8:26:02 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Nea Wood
Post # 64: I agree completely with everything you have said.
95 posted on 12/21/2001 8:26:40 PM PST by Savage Beast
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To: Capitalist Eric
My hunch is that you may, and I stress may, be on to something, but you haven't posted one single study, statistical analysis, or dreaded poll to support your contention that Republicans lose more voters over abortion than they gain.

Ping me when you post something more than your opinion, as I'd like to know what your opinion is based on.

97 posted on 12/21/2001 8:28:14 PM PST by Kryptonite
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To: Capitalist Eric
Especially when facts are important.

For someone who supposedly thinks that facts are important, you have failed to cite any.

98 posted on 12/21/2001 8:28:17 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: LSUsoph
J.C. Watts. He's already held one of the world's toughest jobs and excelled at it:

wishbone quarterback


99 posted on 12/21/2001 8:29:27 PM PST by medved
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To: Momaw Nadon
Well I was pulling for Condi, but now I'm really for her. If anything needs to be aborted it's the Democrat Party. A vote for a Democrat is a vote for the decline and fall of the United States.
100 posted on 12/21/2001 8:31:57 PM PST by Savage Beast
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