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1 posted on 12/20/2001 10:32:38 PM PST by JustPiper
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Bump! There many details in this report that I haven't seen before.
2 posted on 12/21/2001 12:58:35 AM PST by InfraRed
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The piece says that one of the devices has a 1 kiloton yield and the other style of device has a 3 to 5 kiloton yield. Can someone here translate that into "potential damage done" for me and for other readers? In terms of cityscapes, for instance.
4 posted on 12/21/2001 1:42:39 AM PST by satire
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If they had been doing their effing jobs in the first place they would probably know if there were or not at least. If they were doing their jobs there wouldnt be any foriegn nukes, illegals, etc PERIOD...JFK
6 posted on 12/21/2001 2:05:08 AM PST by BADROTOFINGER
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If one of these things goes off in America, just say goodbye to Mecca and Medina. I mean it. Vaporize them. The gloves would be off!
7 posted on 12/21/2001 2:28:19 AM PST by jslade
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That dog won't hunt. If they had nukes they would have already used them.
16 posted on 12/21/2001 5:58:07 AM PST by Intimidator
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It's not like a nuclear weapon has an eternal shelf life. If you don't use one by such and such a date, you're likely not to be able to use it at all. Look at your lawn mower that you left in the garage all winter -- it requires some work before you can use it again."

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19 posted on 12/21/2001 6:36:27 AM PST by freebilly
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To: JustPiper,ChaseR,Chapita,rit,Hopalong,super175,BlueDogDemo,flamefront,rightwing2,aristeides,golit
BUMP

China has built and successfully tested a miniaturized suitcase sized neutron bomb.

China closely supports Iraq and AlQaeda. Bin Laden gave two US cruise missiles to China after 1998.

Red mercury used in making miniaturized neutron bombs (baseball sized)was found in Iraq by UN weapons inspectors.

Sam Cohen the father of the neutron bomb has written that red mercury can be used to make baseball sized neutron bombs for suitcase weapons. That is his science and not his speculation. Cohen also reported that red mercury had been found in Iraq by UN weapons inspectors

It is very possible that China has helped Iraq develop a neutron bomb and that Iraq could give a suitcase neutron bomb to AlQaeda and Bin Laden to bring into the US. China for that matter could also directly give a suitcase sized neutron bomb to AlQaeda and Bin LAden.

26 posted on 12/21/2001 9:32:34 AM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: JustPiper
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33 posted on 12/21/2001 10:53:50 AM PST by Johnny Shear
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To: JustPiper
Regarding the latest terror alert, "The pucker factor is very high," a former senior CIA official said.

Uh-oh

34 posted on 12/21/2001 10:58:05 AM PST by a_witness
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BTTT! Thanks!
35 posted on 12/21/2001 10:58:34 AM PST by SusanUSA
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To: JustPiper
Richard Sale has a history of interviewing sources known to be unreliable, making up facts, and using his own earlier, wrong reports as source material for his articles.

Could there be one of these devices in the U.S.? Unlikely, but not impossible. But many facts in this article are simply wrong.

• There aren't any of these devices made by the Soviets that are unaccounted for. (That was the allegation of a Russian presidential candidate a few years back, long since discredited.)

• The report about one of these weapons being intercepted in Israel has only seriously appeared in a previous Richard Sale article, and has been widely discredited by other sources.

• Finally, the allegation in this article that these weapons could be operated by one person is arguable at best. While they can be theoretically carried by one person, the weapons are estimated to weigh between 200-300 lbs. (Thus, the popular description of these as "backpack" nukes is not really accurate.) One person could carry one of these weapons, but not very far, and not without attracting a certain amount of attention. The assembly would also be difficult for a single person to accomplish, although again, it would probably be possible.

Keep reports like this in perspective. And whenever you see that "Richard Sale" byline, put the BS detector on extra-sensitive.

39 posted on 12/21/2001 4:42:54 PM PST by ignatz_q
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Please note the date on the following. Much of this was brought out early on, but the usual mouths replied so loudly, so volumously, and so arrogantly to those of us giving early warning that most of the threads were deleted. Most know who I mean.

Bin Laden has several Nuclear Suitcases

Reproduced from the Jerusalem Report: October 25th, 1999 --- http://christianactionforisrael.org/isreport/septoct99/binladen.html

Master terrorist Ossama Bin Laden has acquired portable nuclear devices, a U.S.-based expert on non-conventional terror believes. The only real question now is whether BinLaden has "a few," as Russian intelligence seems to think, or "over 20," a figure cited by intelligence services of moderate Arab regimes. "There is no longer much doubt that Bin Laden has finally succeeded in his quest for nuclear ‘suitcase bombs," says Yossef Bodansky, head of the Congressional Task Force on Non-Conventional Terrorism in Washington. In a recent book, Bodansky reports that Bin Laden’s associates acquired the devices through Chechnya, paying the Chechens $30 million in cash and two tons of Afghan heroin, worth about $70 million in Afghanistan and about 10 times that on the street in Western cities.

Bodansky’s statements corroborate 1998 testimony by former Russian security chief Alexander Lebed to the U.S. House of Representatives. Lebed said that 43 nuclear suitcases from the former Soviet arsenal, developed for the KGB in the 1970s, have vanished since the collapse of the former Soviet Union a decade ago. Lebed said one person could detonate such a bomb by himself, and kill 100,000 people.

Among the others who recognize the threat is Ben Venzke, director of Tempest Publishing. The U.S. firm plans to release a detailed technical handbook on dealing with nuclear terror next year. The danger, says Venzke, is quite real and is not confined to stolen Russian weapons. "It is really quite simple," he says, "to acquire radioactive material and combine it with an explosive or so-called dirty device." Yael Haran

More at link----- http://christianactionforisrael.org/isreport/septoct99/binladen.html

57 posted on 12/22/2001 2:47:27 PM PST by rdavis84
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