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To: MeeknMing
Here 'tis from RonDog--

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse. When a people are used as mere human instruments for firing cannon or thrusting bayonets, in the service and for the selfish purposes of a master, such war degrades a people. A war to protect other human beings against tyrannical injustice; a war to give victory to their own ideas of right and good, and which is their own war, carried on for an honest purpose by their own free choice--is often the means of their regeneration. A man who has nothing which he cares about more than he does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the existing of better men than himself. As long as justice and injustice have not terminated their ever renewing fight for ascendancy in the affairs of mankind, human beings must be willing, when need is, to do battle for the one against the other.
John Stuart Mill, "The Contest in America," pp. 208-09, in John Stuart Mill, Dissertations and Discussions (Boston: William V. Spencer, 1867). [bold mine]

DAMN that's good stuff.

13 posted on 12/16/2001 9:30:06 AM PST by maxwell
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To: maxwell
Whoa! Personal safety and Freedom BUMP!! Thanks!
14 posted on 12/16/2001 9:33:33 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: maxwell
If you follow the John Stuart Mill link at the end of the quote on my profile page, you can read the LONG version.
15 posted on 12/16/2001 9:43:18 AM PST by RonDog
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To: maxwell
When a people are used as mere human instruments for firing cannon or thrusting bayonets, in the service and for the selfish purposes of a master, such war degrades a people.

That would be the Clinton years.

A war to protect other human beings against tyrannical injustice; a war to give victory to their own ideas of right and good, and which is their own war, carried on for an honest purpose by their own free choice--is often the means of their regeneration.

And this would appear to be the Bush years.

16 posted on 12/16/2001 9:43:47 AM PST by Schnucki
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To: maxwell
That is good stuff! I just watch the documentaries about Afghanistan, Somalia and other third world countries and figure I would rather be dead than live like they do so the alternative is to do everything in your power not to be like the failed countries. Besides, I'm not ugly enough yet to hide behind a blanket.
19 posted on 12/16/2001 9:46:25 AM PST by Jaidyn
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To: maxwell
One of the things that this quote points out is how well educated our soldiers are today. It is hard to find a greater contrast between belief and reality than the image that the left has about our military. It is wonderful when someone is able to show what advancement our service people get from the various education tracks they follow.

I missed the O'Reilly special and sure hope that it is rebroadcast. It would be logcal to rerun it between Xmas and New Years because of the normal programming slack. I hope Fox is listening!

29 posted on 12/16/2001 2:11:13 PM PST by SES1066
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