Celebrating 470 years of an ongoing miracle, the apparition of Our Lady of Guadalupe 1531

In the year 1531 in Mexico, the Holy Virgin Mary appeared to Juan Diego, a peasant who was converting to Catholicism. It was the 9th of December, the original feast day of the Immaculate Conception, when Juan Diego was on his way to the Church for instruction and to hear Holy Mass. Juan heard someone calling him "Juanito...Juan Dieguito." Juan Diego looked to the top of Tepeyac Hill and saw a lady of overpowering brillance and beauty, who's garments shone like the sun. She appeared to be about 14 years old.

The Lady introduced herself in these words: "Know for certain, dearest of my sons, that I am the perfect and perpetual Virgin Mary, Mother of the True God, through whom everything lives, the Lord of all things, who is Master of Heaven and Earth. I ardently desire that a temple be built here for me where I will show and offer all my love, my compassion, my help and my protection to the people. I am your merciful Mother, the Mother of all who live united in this land, and of all mankind, of all those who love me, of those who cry to me, of those who have confidence in me. Here I will hear there weeping and sorrows, and will remedy and alleviate their sufferings, necessites and misfortunes." She told Juan Diego to go the Bishop Zumarraga and tell him what he had seen and heard.

Juan Diego bowed reverently and said "My Holy One, my Lady, I will do what you ask of me."

Bishop Zumarraga had been sent by Spain to the New World to convert and instruct the native people. At that time in Mexico human sacrifice to the gods Quetelcoatl and Coatlicue, and various other pagan gods were occuring, as many as 20,000 victims would be sacrificed at the dedication of a temple.

Bishope Zumarraga had not been having much success converting the Aztec and native people and distrust and anger was spreading amongst the two. He had been praying to God for assistance and a sign, the sign was that of roses. Roses would be the sign that Bishop Zumarraga wanted in order to know that he was doing the right thing. But now it was December and roses were not blooming.

Juan Diego arrived and was greeted by the Bishop. The Bishop welcomed him warmly but upon hearing his story dismissed him pleasantly. Juan Diego thought he had failed and after hearing Mass and instruction returned to his home.

Our Lady appeared to him again, asking him if he had had success with the Bishop. Juan told Our Lady that he did not think the Bishop believed him and that perhasps she should send someone of greater importance. Our Lady smiled at Juan Diego, telling him that she had chosen him to be the deliverer of the message and urged him to return to the Bishop the next day and again make the request.

Juan Diego did return the next day and again gave the Bishop the message. Bishop Zumarraga was surprised to see Juan Diego again so soon. He questioned him a bit at length and again dismissed him. Now he wondered if there were something too Juans message. Before dismissing Juan Diego the Bishop told Juan that he needed a sign from the Lady to be convinced. Juan asked the Bishop what kind of sign he would like and he would tell the Lady the Bishops reequest. The Bishop told Juan that he would leave the sign up to the Lady to deliver.

On his way back home Juan Diego again encountered Our Lady. He told her that the Bishop had requested a sign but did not say what the sign should be. Our Lady told Juan: "That is very well,my little son, return here tomorrow and you will have the sign he requested." She also told him that he would be rewarded for all he had done on her behalf.

When Dec. 11th came Juan Diegos uncle, Juan Bernardino, was gravely ill and Juan Diego stayed by his side and did not go to the Bishop. All night he prayed and attended to his uncle until the morning of the 12th when his uncle took a turn for the worse. Juan wanted to get a priest to enable his uncle to recieve the sacraments before he died.

Juan now had a dilemma, if he went past Tepeyac hill he was sure to encounter the Lady. He wanted to get the priest in order to bring him to his uncle before he died but did not want to disappoint Our Lady so he decided to go around the other side of Tepeyac hill. He thought that surely Our Lady would understand.

As Juan Diego tried to duck Our Lady he was suddenly intercepted by her, as she called out to him "What is the matter my little son?" "Where are you going?" Juan explained to the Lady "Noble Lady, it will grieve you to hear what I have to say. My uncle, your poor servant, is very sick. He is suffering from the plague and is dying. I am hurrying to the Church in Mexico City to call a priest to here his confession and give him the last rites. When I have done this, I will return here immediately to convey your message." "Please forgive me and be patient with me. I am not decieving you. I promise to faithfully come here tomorrow with all haste."

There was a pause. Our Lady looked at Juan Diego and uttered the words that have rung down through nearly 5 centuries. "Listen and let it penetrate your heart, my dear little son, do not be troubled or weighed down with grief. Do not fear any illness or vexation, anxiety or pain. Am I not here who am your Mother? Are you not under my shadow and protection? Am I not your fountain of life? Are you not in the folds of my mantle? In the crossing of my arms? Is there anything else you need?" She then assured Juan that his uncle would not die from his illeness and at this very moment was cured.

She told Juan to go to the top of Tepeyac Hill and pick as many flowers as he could carry and bring them down to her. Juan climbed the hill and could not believe the multitude of Castilian Roses blooming on the top. They were blooming out of season. He gathered as many as he could carry and brought them down to Our Lady, who arranged them in his tilma (poncho made of cactus plant fibers. Our Lady arranged them and folded them up in Juans tilma. She told him that this was the sign that the Bishop wanted and to take them to him.

Juan Diego finally got in to see the Bishop with his bundle. The Bishop recieved Juan and Juan told him the following. "Your Excellency, I obeyed your instructions, very early this morning, the celestial Lady told me to come and see you again. I asked for the sign which you requested and which she had promised to give me. She told me to climb to the top of the hill where I had previously seen her, to pick the flowers growing there. I knew quite well that the summit of the hill was no place for flowers to grow, especially this time of year, but I did not doubt her word. When I reached the top, I was astonised to find myself surrounded by beautiful flowers. I plucked as many as I could carry and brought them back to her. She arranged them with her own hands and replaced them in my robe in order that I might bring them to you. Here they are. Behold, recieve them." With that Juan Diego released the ends of his tilma and the flowers, mingled with Castillian Roses, cascaded to the floor in a profusion of colour and perfume.

Zumarraga gazed speechless at the roses, the sign that he had been praying for peace in the country. Full of wonder he lifted his eyes back up to Juan Diego to find that the tilma now had an image of Our Lady appearing on it.

From that day, December 12th 1531, the tilma has survived, miraculously. At that time 8 million Mexicans and Aztec Indians converted to Catholicism. The human sacrifice to the pagan gods ceased.

For nearly 500 years there have been miracles through Our Lady and the tilma. Scientists have studied it, socialist revolutionaries tried to destroy it, there have been volumes written about the tilma, which is very much like the Shroud of Turin.

On this feast day of Our Lady of Guadalupe, which means to the Aztecs "she who crushes the head of the serpent" I would urge you to read the story, say some special prayers to Our Lady, particularly to end the human sacrifice of abortion in this country.

I know how your inquisition works, we've done this lots of times before. I won't play your game. I'll default to what the bible says every time. Your Jesus is as different from the bible Jesus as Your Mary is from the bible Mary. Your Jesus only exists to glorify your Mary. Since we are never talking about the same Jesus and Mary I can never agree with what you say.

Yes it is interesting, another interesting point, Mickael (?) Gorbachev announced the end of the Soviet Union on Dec. 8th (cant remember which year) the feast of the Immaculate Conception.

I guess a series of questions is an "inquisition." We all notice how you won't answer any of them. Suffice it to say that you are the one in error. Good day.

Mary and Joseph were married, they had sex. Maybe even while she was pregnant with Jesus. Sex, is not a sin, it is as natural as a back rub, or a foot massage. Although putting a human being on a pedestal is, whether they are alive or dead. In the bible, when angels were portrayed as communicating with people, the people invariably fell to their knees. They were commanded to rise up, as they were not to be worshipped. We are commanded to bend a knee to God the father, and his son, no one else. When the Hebrews were caught worshipping the Golden Calf in the wilderness, they proclaimed, "this is just a representation of God to us". That is why people get worked up about this kind of post.

Yes, happy feast day!

Although I was hoping people reading the post would look at the image and read about it for themselves (I'm sure some did) instead of the bickering.

sigh

Being that we're Mary's children I cant help but think she's looking at us like I sometimes look at my bickering children.

Like we all need a good whap upside the head LOL.

Oh well.

Oh! I almost fogot! There was a story in the paper today which included a website. I didnt get much time to look at the site but its from the Basillica in Mexico apparently. Dont know if they have an english translation either because it was all in spanish, but it did have some good pictures.

http://www.virgedeguadalupe.org.mx

Mary and Joseph were married, they had sex. Maybe even while she was pregnant with Jesus.

How sad that this lowly Catholic knows more about the Bible than you. From the original Bible of the Apostles, the KJV, Matt 1:25

And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

Regardless of the definition of "till" you ascribe to, there is no way Joseph and Mary had sex while she was pregnant.

Mary and Joseph were married, they had sex. Maybe even while she was pregnant with Jesus.

Wow! Your bible sure is different than mine...

I don't think God would have appointed a 'just man' to protect His Son and mother, a man who could only think about sex.

I could not imagine such a thing as you have posted, knowing that my wife was carrying the Christ child. Not during or after or ever.

There are still many people today who have consecrated their virginity to God.

I believe what you posted was wicked and perverse. A shining example of the way our society has degraded to the point that it has.

He knew her not? Or he knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son. From the scriptures the perpetual virginity of Mary is spiked. I wonder if her second born was also a virgin birth? My comment was facetious about sex before the birth, but you have answered the question of the day because of it, Mary had other children.

A shining example of the way our society has degraded to the point that it has.

Is it surprising that a society that gladly takes their grade school daughters to listen to Britney Spears moan suggestively can not conceive of people volutarily doing without sex?

Or he knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son. From the scriptures the perpetual virginity of Mary is spiked. I wonder if her second born was also a virgin birth?

LOL Another Scripture scholar. Let me get this straight. You are telling me, with a straight face, that the phrase "firstborn" means that there had to be more than one?

You might want to study the Old Testament and the peoples found within.

"Do not fear any illness or vexation, anxiety or pain. Am I not here who am your Mother? Are you not under my shadow and protection? Am I not your fountain of life? Are you not in the folds of my mantle? In the crossing of my arms? Is there anything else you need?" She then assured Juan that his uncle would not die from his illeness and at this very moment was cured. "

WOW!!! She has so much power! Why did God bother to send Jesus. Mom of the Catholic Church has it all under control....
This is the biggest CROCK i've ever seen..

I wonder what moves someone like you to post something of that nature if you do not agree with what is said.

Thanks for your observations.

Your right, the contraceptive society. I was over on the other post about the Pope calling for peace and Paletine getting their own state. What foul comments were posted. I thought to myself about a vision a saint had which said that at the end the Church would suffer the same sufferings that Jesus suffered, the agony in the garden, the scourging, crowning with thorns, carrying the cross. I thought to myself that we certainly seem to be carrying our cross, with people on the sidelines jeering and casting insults.

Tis a great time to be catholic eh? :-)

" Mark 6:3 3 Isn't this the carpenter? Isn't this Mary's son and the brother of James, Joseph, Judas and Simon? Aren't his sisters here with us?" And they took offense at him. (NIV) "

Please tell me why the author used two different greek words for brother and sister if, as the Catholics tell us, they weren't brothers or sisters but cousins?

What is a better way for the devil to have people think all this is kooky? Have people believe they are seeing something when in fact they are not. The devil as you are aware, is a "false coiner", a counterfiter. After and during every appartion that I've read about, satan tries to lure the people away with falsehood and his own trickery. Kind of like Slick Willie, smoke and mirrors to dispense with the truth.

But it could never work the other way. Satan could not possibly be trying to lure people INTO these apparitions, right?

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