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Are liberal Democrats the new black helicopter loonies?
Captal de Buch | 12-10-01 | Captal de Buch

Posted on 12/10/2001 3:03:32 PM PST by Captal de Buch

Are the liberal Democrats becoming the black helicopter loonies of the new millennium?

 

Remember the black helicopter loonies of the 90’s? Linda Thompson, Mark from Michigan and the other crazies, remember how all their stupid ranting seem to stick to conservatives like Velcro? Those bozos created all sorts of credibility problems for anyone who spoke up about issues in the Clinton administration. Any time a conservative criticized the Clinton administration he or she would be dismissed as just another Clinton hating black helicopter loony. This dismissible conservative credibility in the eyes of the American public seemed to embolden Clinton to do what he damn well pleased without fear of retribution from the public, even to the point of lying to Congress and the American people.

 

Is the shoe on the other foot now?

 

Charles Schumer, Maxine Waters and others from the left appear have taken up the mantel of un-credible loonies whose words and actions are destroying any credibility the Democrats have when it comes to criticizing the Republicans and the Bush administration. Their ranting doesn’t seem to change Bush’s popularity ratings, in fact they make it look like the Democratic Party agenda is simply a sour grapes plot to get Bush.

 

Do the Republicans realize this? If they do realize this can they take advantage of the situation or will the innate Republican fear of doing something stupid turn into another round of not doing anything at all?


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To: VA Advogado; Dr. Doom
RE: "First to use the Nazi term..."

Main Entry: fac·ile

Pronunciation: 'fa-s&l
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle French, from Latin facilis, from facere to do —more at DO
Date: 15th century 1 a (1) : easily accomplished or attained
(2) : SPECIOUS, SUPERFICIAL ~I am not concerned … with offering any facile solution for so
complex a problem —T. S. Eliot b : used or comprehended with ease c : readily manifested and often lacking sincerity or depth ~facile tears~
2 : archaic : mild or pleasing in manner or disposition
3 a : READY, FLUENT ~facile prose~ b : POISED, ASSURED

synonym see EASY - fac·ile·ly /-s&(l)-lE/ adverb
- fac·ile·ness /-s&l-n&s/ noun
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Unless there's somethin else be goin on round hear, it seemin that VA don't know what facile meanin'.

201 posted on 12/10/2001 5:43:53 PM PST by motzman
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To: sinkspur
You, yourself, said in a post up the thread that the Constitution protects the rights of Americans.

Don't put words in my mouth. It protects the rights of anyone who falls under American Jurisdiction. It should anyway. It's supposed to. If it doesn't, then the government may at any time claim your are a non-citizen and do whatever it wishes with you.

202 posted on 12/10/2001 5:44:47 PM PST by Demidog
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To: Demidog
"We the people of the United States" doesn't mean to include "we the people of Saudi Arabia" and "we the people of Sudan" or even "we the people of a one world government".
203 posted on 12/10/2001 5:44:52 PM PST by FITZ
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To: motzman
You really add very little to this interesting debate. Dont they have a sandbox thread for you to play on?
204 posted on 12/10/2001 5:45:34 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: Demidog
. It protects the rights of anyone who falls under American Jurisdiction.

That would seem to imply people who obeyed American laws to be here, not those who broke the laws and are here illegally thumbing their noses at the laws.

205 posted on 12/10/2001 5:46:15 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Demidog
The constitution is applicable wherever our government acts.

Unadulterated rubbish. Does a female soldier have a right to an abortion in Saudi Arabia?

206 posted on 12/10/2001 5:46:44 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: Senator Pardek
Your question is rubbish. It is irrelevant. If our government attempts to assert jurisdiction outside of our borders then it must respect the document that is intended to restrain bad behavior by the government.

What's so hard to understand about that?

207 posted on 12/10/2001 5:48:52 PM PST by Demidog
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To: VA Advogado
You really add very little to this interesting debate. Dont they have a sandbox thread for you to play on?

Dude-YOU called ME out. If you mess with the bull, you're gonna get the horns. Am I being to facile for you?
208 posted on 12/10/2001 5:48:55 PM PST by motzman
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To: motzman
LOL You're stoned. Bull? More like the master of Bull Sh*t. :)
209 posted on 12/10/2001 5:49:54 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: Demidog
If it doesn't, then the government may at any time claim your are a non-citizen and do whatever it wishes with you.

You pointedly neglect to address whether or not non-citizens may be deported.

The government may not, in everything, do whatever it wishes with non-citizens, but it damn well may tell them to leave and, if they won't, they will be forced to.

210 posted on 12/10/2001 5:50:04 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: VA Advogado
And its the Supreme Court that says what is constitutional, not you.

It's the Constitution that says what's Constitutional, not any particular person or set of persons. BTW, do you understand where judicial review comes from?

His oath is sworn to the constitution as it has been interpreted by the SCOTUS, not you.

Hmmmm... Article VI says, "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." I don't see "as interpreted by" in there. Do you?

211 posted on 12/10/2001 5:51:35 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: FITZ
That would seem to imply people who obeyed American laws to be here

The only people chained by the constitution are federal and state government officials. You and I are chained by our moral conscience and the criminal law.

The federal govenrment must respect the rights of every person it claims jurisdiction over.

212 posted on 12/10/2001 5:51:51 PM PST by Demidog
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To: Demidog
What about the part in Section 2?:

to controversies between two or more states;--between a state and citizens of another state;--between citizens of different states;--between citizens of the same state claiming lands under grants of different states, and between a state, or the citizens thereof, and foreign states, citizens or subjects.

213 posted on 12/10/2001 5:54:40 PM PST by FITZ
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To: sinkspur
You pointedly neglect to address whether or not non-citizens may be deported.

Not if they haven't committed a criminal act. And most certainly they may not hold them indefinately without cause as that would not only be a power the government was never given, but it would also violate their right to privacy and property.

Show me where in the constitution it gioves the government the power to violate anyone's rights. I notice that you haven't even attempted. Do you already know that such powers do not exist and are too much of a coward to admit you know this, or are you still searching?

214 posted on 12/10/2001 5:55:42 PM PST by Demidog
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To: Demidog
Foreign states, citizens, and subjects would seem to mean they are still under the juridiction of their own government, not ours.
215 posted on 12/10/2001 5:55:46 PM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ
What about it?
216 posted on 12/10/2001 5:56:07 PM PST by Demidog
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To: VA Advogado
Dr. Paul is a gynecologist who has delivered a few thousand babies. You don't find Congressmen who are more anti-abortion than he is. He takes his oath seriously and that oath doesn't mention the Supreme Court at all.

You, on the other hand, have no understanding of the person you're slandering and you obviously didn't even know that he's a gynecologist. Why don't you go find a forum more suited to your mentality? You don't belong here at all.

I've seen people who don't know anything, but you don't even suspect anything.

217 posted on 12/10/2001 5:59:31 PM PST by Twodees
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To: Demidog
Why does the Constitution imply there are foreign subjects?
218 posted on 12/10/2001 6:00:26 PM PST by FITZ
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To: VA Advogado; Fury; realpatriot71; tpaine
LOL You're stoned. Bull? More like the master of Bull Sh*t. :)

This, from a guy who thinks facile means "facist".

And who "doesn't want the debate to degenerate..."
219 posted on 12/10/2001 6:00:39 PM PST by motzman
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