Posted on 12/10/2001 3:03:32 PM PST by Captal de Buch
Are the liberal Democrats becoming the black helicopter loonies of the new millennium?
Remember the black helicopter loonies of the 90’s? Linda Thompson, Mark from Michigan and the other crazies, remember how all their stupid ranting seem to stick to conservatives like Velcro? Those bozos created all sorts of credibility problems for anyone who spoke up about issues in the Clinton administration. Any time a conservative criticized the Clinton administration he or she would be dismissed as just another Clinton hating black helicopter loony. This dismissible conservative credibility in the eyes of the American public seemed to embolden Clinton to do what he damn well pleased without fear of retribution from the public, even to the point of lying to Congress and the American people.
Is the shoe on the other foot now?
Charles Schumer, Maxine Waters and others from the left appear have taken up the mantel of un-credible loonies whose words and actions are destroying any credibility the Democrats have when it comes to criticizing the Republicans and the Bush administration. Their ranting doesn’t seem to change Bush’s popularity ratings, in fact they make it look like the Democratic Party agenda is simply a sour grapes plot to get Bush.
Do the Republicans realize this? If they do realize this can they take advantage of the situation or will the innate Republican fear of doing something stupid turn into another round of not doing anything at all?
I believe they have rights from conception, but even ignorning my beliefs, the Supreme Court has indicated the government (Federal and State)has a compelling interest in a childs life during the third trimester. That was from Roe.
As to your other claim about the Patriot act, I mentioned it not.
As an American, you are born with no more rights than the creator gave you. No human is capable of conferring or denying rights. The constitution itself does not differentiate between citizens or non-citizens when chaining the government.
Absolutely. Until we get it overturned.
No I wouldn't. Where does it say citizen anywhere in the bill of rights?
For extra points, name the place in the constitution where it states that the government may infringe on any of those rights citizen or not.
You're just jealous that I left you off the list.
Frankly, it was an oversight. You're at the top of the list when it comes to cranks.
Bizarre non-sequitor and irrelevant.
And its the Supreme Court that says what is constitutional, not you. So Ron Paul is a baby killer as far as I am concerned. His oath is sworn to the constitution as it has been interpreted by the SCOTUS, not you.
Who is "ourselves"? Why didn't they just say "everyone"?
I flagged them in the next message.
LOL
Duh - that's exactly what I said in my post. However, the Framers of the Constitution would bristle at your notion that the Constitution is applicable in Afghanistan.
He wasn't talking about you. Whom you flag is irrelevant here.
You, yourself, said in a post up the thread that the Constitution protects the rights of Americans.
It doesn't protect the rights of Egyptians.
Egyptians may be sent home at our discretion.
There is no "right" for an Egyptian to enjoy American hospitality.
The point is they were flagged.
And furthermore, they (the founders) would not bristle at all. And if they would bristle then they would be hypocrites and liars for writing something which they never intended to follow.
Not by Sink. Are you sink?
Lets not let our debate degenerate into this, OK?
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