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'Goldberg Is Right' Says Former CBSer Reid Collins
NewsMax ^ | Dec. 8, 2001 | Wes Vernon

Posted on 12/10/2001 2:02:20 PM PST by John Jorsett

WASHINGTON – A second former CBS News correspondent is cheering on Bernard Goldberg’s candor in his blockbuster book, "Bias: A CBS Insider Exposes How the Media Distort the News.”

Reid Collins, a veteran of CBS News and CNN, says there is peer pressure inside the major TV networks that makes it difficult for anyone with known conservative views to advance inside the company.

"It’s a corporate culture that we’re talking about,” Collins explained in an exclusive interview with NewsMax.com Friday.

"A young guy comes out of the woods into New York. And he discovers, as I think many of our primary people in the news business discover very early, that ‘if I’m going to get along, if I’m going to get invited to the East and West Side [New York] cocktail parties, and if I’m going to swim in this particular sea, I’ve got to wear these particular fins. Whether I came to the city with them or not is beside the point. I’d better darn well wear them, and I’d better swim with the crowd, or it’s upstream from here on in.’”

To Collins, those network experiences showed him that "it’s as if one walked into the Taliban headquarters and pretty soon discovered that everybody thought just about the same.

"I was surprised when I came to New York and discovered that almost everybody there, at least who was successful, was of the same mind.”

Collins fears that peer pressure means the establishment media is not about to change its liberal culture.

Other media watchers agree that after the uproar has died down, the major liberal media will remain as biased as ever.

"I would be surprised if [the book] produced a real national conversation among journalists,” Washington Post media critic Howard Kurtz told NewsMax.com, "simply because too many journalists reflexively dismiss this sort of criticism.”

For the time being, however, the book is having the effect of stirring up healthy debate, observes Reed Irvine, President of Accuracy In Media which monitors TV, radio and the press for giving short shrift to conservative views.

"The more CBS complains, the better it is. I like to see them react with such ferocity,” Irvine told NewsMax.com, "It just shows he [Goldberg] hit a sore spot and they know it.”

Goldberg’s onetime colleague Collins, widely remembered for his coverage of space shuttle flights on CBS Radio, says Goldberg’s first op-ed piece in the Wall Street Journal wherein he denounced media bias at CBS News and elsewhere "was such a revolutionary concept that anybody would get out of step with the platoon that I think it did Bernie in.”

In his book, Goldberg returns to the original focus of his 1996 Journal piece: A "hatchet job” (as described by Collins) by CBS News correspondent Eric Engberg on then-presidential candidate Steve Forbes’s flat-tax idea.

Imagine what would happen, Goldberg writes, if a CBS News correspondent offered a story calling Hillary Clinton’s health care plan "wacky,” the label a supposedly straight news story pinned on the Forbes tax proposal. Would it see the light of day on the air, going out to millions of viewers? Fat chance!

"The thought [of panning Hillary-care] would never occur,” Collins told NewsMax, "and the piece would never get past the editor, even if he decided to do one.”

Anyone with conservative views at CBS was "a rarity,” according to the longtime CBS and CNN anchor. "A person with conservative views or even middle-of-the-road views, starting out some years ago at CBS would be a standout person.”

The Engberg piece was a story "that everyone had to admit was biased,” Rich Noyes Director of Media Analysis at the conservative-oriented Media Research Center told NewsMax, "And yet CBS wouldn’t admit that it was biased, and they wouldn’t admit there was a problem. And they instead decided they were going to sacrifice [Goldberg].”

Given that, Noyes doesn’t "know that there is much optimism that a book that basically lays that out in much greater detail and brings it right to readers [will inspire media introspection]. I think they’re too entrenched to do that.”

Collins recalls that when Ronald Reagan was running for president in 1980, a couple of CBS producers told him "if he’s elected, I’m going to Canada.”

"All right,” replied Collins, "I think he will be elected. If you go, I will pay your bus fare.” After the election, he sought them out, and asked, "Do you still want to leave? Where can we get your ticket?” Of course, "nobody left. They’re still there.”

Shades of actor Alec Baldwin who last year made a similar threat in the event George W. Bush became president. Baldwin remains in the good old USA, last known address in Long Island’s ritzy-glitzy Hamptons, with all the swells.

On the TV panel program "Reliable Sources,” Collins got into a discussion with Newsweek’s Howard Fineman over why so many news directors fawned over Bill Clinton. Fineman said it was a generational "affinity.” Collins thought the better word was "bias,” the title of Goldberg’s book.

"Goldberg is right,” Collins opines.

"A very colorful book that makes some good points,” is Post critic Kurtz’s overall take, adding he thinks, "It can contribute to the ongoing debate about bias in the media.”

Kurtz does believe, however that Goldberg’s substantive arguments "may be overshadowed to some degree by his personal attacks on the likes of Dan Rather and CBS News President Andrew Heyward. "But it would be a shame if the finger-pointing on both sides obscured what remains a serious issue [i.e. media bias).” It is the Washington Post writer’s view that Goldberg has offered up "provocative arguments that journalists ought to debate.”

Noyes (of the Media Research Center) sees "a fracturing of the media” as the most likely solution to the problem. The major network news programs have lost viewers by the millions in recent years. With Fox News Channel giving the conservative side an even break, added to talk radio, "you’re not going to have any network like CBS in the olden days when they held thirty of forty percent of the audience share for news. It’s going to be ten to fifteen percent as the best anybody could hope for.”

"CBS made Rush Limbaugh,” says Reid Collins, "They gave talk radio so much to talk about,” and the American people are voting with their remote controls.

Meanwhile, as the work week wound down, Goldberg was scheduled for back-to-back interviews. It is reasonable to speculate that he’s sleeping better at night now that he’s getting this story off his chest and out to the public.

That feeling, shared by this writer simply in covering the whole controversy, also applies to Collins. He agrees it is something of a catharsis.

"I get a little kick out of occasionally writing or saying something that is more akin to what I think is the truth, at least as one sees it,” Collins says.


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To: ladyinred
And NOT calling Georgia, Tennessee and Arkansas early, making it look like they were toss-ups!
21 posted on 12/10/2001 3:56:43 PM PST by georgia peach
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To: harrowup
...The one thing that surprized me more than anything was the number of anti-Semitic Jews at network.

Utterly preposterous. Mistaking self-deprecating humour for bigotry is one level of insolence. If you are simply trying to knock Jews it is altogether another kettle.

I take it you didn't work in editing.

No, I did not work in editing, I worked as a reporter for 20 years, all around the world. I saw plenty of anti-Semitism, especially from some Jews who had gone to "the finest schools"

Please do not tell me what my ears did or did not hear, or what my eyes did or did not see..... and no, I'm not Jewish.

22 posted on 12/10/2001 4:58:22 PM PST by MindBender26
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To: MindBender26
...do not tell me what my ears did or did not hear, or what my eyes did or did not see..... and no, I'm not Jewish.

Well, I am and for a reporter, you had a tin ear and hayseed in you eyes. You mistook humor for bigotry and snobbery. The fact that an Irishman in NYC can laugh about whether he is shanty Irish because he went to Brooklyn Poly and his neighbor is Lace Curtain because he went to Yale is a standard staple of NYC humor...and the Jews do it up in grand conditon...have you ever heard about the Ribbon Counter Jumpers? Gentile or Jew will recognize it for humor not bigotry.

Anti-Semitic Jews are exceptionally rare and clearly mental.

23 posted on 12/10/2001 5:21:46 PM PST by harrowup
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To: Timesink
That's me. I occasionally catch Fox and Friends just to watch E.D. (siiigh) but otherwise I don't watch TV news at all. Okay, when something "breaking and graphic" is on, I will. I watched the WTC all day.

And I guarantee that I'm better informed than most of the producers.

24 posted on 12/10/2001 5:37:38 PM PST by Abn1508
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To: maxwellp
This pretty much confirms the hypothesis I had about the OldDominantLiberalMedia seven years ago. I also believe that this "corporate culture" is more powerful than the government... that it in fact creates the direction in which the government finds the least resistance in moving.
25 posted on 12/10/2001 5:47:12 PM PST by marktwain
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To: harrowup
Anti-Semitic Jews are exceptionally rare and clearly mental

Actually not. They are quite common in Ivy League and like schools, major corporations and otherwise "restricted" clubs. The thought process is quite common. Take Hillary for example. Had she had Jewish roots, she would have abandoned them while at Welsley.

If by "mental," if you mean psychotic, certainly not. They were taught by professors who saw any association with Israel, either cultural or religious, as being against their one-world (then) Soviet-dominated, Pan-Arabic society theories.

PS, Stop the personal attacks. I know self-depreicating humor when I hear it. There was no humor in this. You were not there. Do not assume.

Reporting 101. Do not presume to "report on" what you did not see-hear.

PPS. If you have any question about Jewish anti-Semitism, ask a local rabbi. They can give you loads of background on it, if they trust you. It is one of their deep, shame-ridden secrets.

26 posted on 12/10/2001 7:07:21 PM PST by MindBender26
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To: John Jorsett
CBS REPORTER EXPOSES LEFT WING MEDIA BIAS (click on picture)


The Hardcover edition.


27 posted on 12/10/2001 8:30:58 PM PST by Cacique
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To: John Jorsett
There is ONLY ONE thing that will change the biased liberal culture in the media -- MONEY!! LOSS OF REVENUE!!

Stop buyin' what they're sellin' !! Period!!

28 posted on 12/10/2001 8:44:59 PM PST by BillofRights
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To: Old Student
Sleep.....Wife......who needs em! We just need the facts.
29 posted on 12/11/2001 3:32:35 AM PST by Blacksheep
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To: Billthedrill
Isn't even shipping yet! I got it a week ago from them.
30 posted on 12/11/2001 4:20:00 AM PST by the catfish
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To: John Jorsett
This had to be awfully tough for him to say, as his son, Reid Collins, works for Dan Rather and is a Vice President on 48 Hours, one of the so-called Dan Rather "bitches" Mr. Goldberg refers to in his book. Ouch, Dad.
31 posted on 12/11/2001 4:28:41 AM PST by ventana
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To: MindBender26
My experience with those Jews is that, really, they are secular Jews. Ethnic Jews who give a nod to a high holy day, but are far from observant and find the rituals of their ancient faith kind of embarrassing. Too, observant Jews are respectful of other faiths while, in my experience, secular Jews are kind of self-consciously cynical about any religion, and the closer the religion is to their own faith, in particular, Catholicism, the less respect they show it. (Catholocism being in the same league of dogmatic, and orthodox, and ritualistic-btw, all good things in my opinion).
32 posted on 12/11/2001 4:35:16 AM PST by ventana
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To: MindBender26
You saw what you wanted to see.
33 posted on 12/11/2001 6:39:27 AM PST by harrowup
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To: harrowup
Grow up
34 posted on 12/11/2001 6:44:02 AM PST by MindBender26
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To: John Jorsett
The crack in the wall just widened a bit. I wonder who will come out of the cold next to verify Goldberg's book?
35 posted on 12/11/2001 6:45:15 AM PST by TADSLOS
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To: John Jorsett; MindBender26
What truly galls me ( mayhap "gags me" would be more accurate... ) is the way so few in any of the media will be forthright about their political orientation. If they did, you could allow a little compensation to color your view of how they comment on and report things.
36 posted on 12/11/2001 7:00:33 AM PST by backhoe
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To: MindBender26
The one thing that surprized me more than anything was the number of anti-Semitic Jews

I have noticed this also, although not at a network. I remember the first time, my mouth dropped open and I thought, "But, don't you know that you are Jewish?" I wondered if she might had been adopted. I quickly closed my mouth and said nothing.

37 posted on 12/11/2001 7:05:12 AM PST by WillaJohns
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To: MindBender26
Anti-Semitic Jews are exceptionally rare and clearly mental

Actually not. They are quite common in Ivy League and like schools, major corporations and otherwise "restricted" clubs

There are liberals with Jewish last names who are anti- "religion", but you paint too broadly to say they are "anit-semitic". Do they hate Jewishness but love some other religion? Or are they just Marxist? They dont go out of their way to pick on "Jews", and Jews only. Your categorization is way off the mark, IMO

38 posted on 12/11/2001 7:08:21 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: MindBender26
I happen to know I'm older, wiser, better looking and not a bigot; your record speaks for itself.
39 posted on 12/11/2001 7:13:21 AM PST by harrowup
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To: John Jorsett
Anyone with conservative views at CBS was "a rarity,”

The reason I don't watch CBS and can't even stand to look at Rather blather. Don't watch any of the other network news shows either except if there is a police chase. heh heh

Fox News is the only way to go. Fox is now affiliated with the radio news on the Los Angeles station, 640AM, that Rush's program is on.

40 posted on 12/11/2001 7:13:50 AM PST by blackbart1
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