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hillary clinton to be on Meet the Press today / Will Tim Russert do an Alan Colmes?
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| Mia T
Posted on 12/09/2001 4:29:47 AM PST by Mia T
- 12-09-01
hillary clinton to be on Meet the Press today
Will Tim Russert do an Alan Colmes?
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- hillary's head revisited:
- hillary clinton's brain (such as it is) II
by Mia T
The smartest woman in the world would relish "the raucous give and take of American democracy, " as Charles Kuralt once put it. hillary clinton, by contrast, subsists on cozy clintonoid interviews of the Colmes kind... In her new book, Political Fictions, Joan Didion indicts the fakery of access journalism practiced by vacant politicos like the clintons, whom she sees as "purveyors of fables of their own making, or worse, fables conceived by political strategists with designs on votes, not news."
![](http://members.aol.com/miat/images/image_025001.jpg) (More Didion: "No one who ever passed through an American public high school could have watched William Jefferson Clinton running for office in 1992 and failed to recognize the familiar predatory sexuality of the provincial adolescent.") (And Bob Woodward: His accomplishment, she says, is to have produced "books in which measurable cerebral activity is virtually absent.")
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- Miss Hillary. . . strikes me as one of those innumerable people whose prose is so dull that they are reduced to using equally prosaic cusswords.
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Paul Greenberg, The man is an artist: He's not just 'Slick Willie' anymore
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- John Podhoretz recently asked, "Whence comes hillary clinton's reputation for brilliance?" For the answer, he intuitively, rather brilliantly in fact, looked to her anatomy and noted,"This isn't the first time she's shot herself in the foot."
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- ...The above anatomical analysis supports the Podhoretz thesis. Notwithstanding The Pod's erroneous conclusions concerning
HILLARY! clinton's heart and nerve, he basically has it right. Anatomy is destiny. -
- Ian Hunter recently observed that our leaders are shrinking. "From a Churchill (or, for that matter, a Margaret Thatcher) to a Tony Blair; from Eisenhower to Clinton; from Diefenbaker to Joe Clark; from Trudeau to Chretien -- we seem destined to be governed by pygmies."
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- ...The clintons' fundamental error: They are too arrogant and dim-witted to understand that the demagogic process in this fiberoptic age isn't about counting spun heads; it's about not discounting circumambient brains...
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Mia T -
Mindless rhinestone-studded-and-tented kleptocracy -
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- "Hillary's people are very bright," said a well-connected Democrat yesterday. "But they think everybody else is stupid."
- Stupid is as stupid does, says Off the Record. . .
OFF THE RECORD: AN OLD DOG NEEDS NEW TRICKS
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- "Hillary thinks that Tipper is an unintellectual nice lady who doesn't have a brain in her head"...
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DEBORAH ORIN -
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- Talk about the pot calling the kettle empty...
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To paraphrase Abe Lincoln: She can compress the most words into the smallest idea of any person I know. [NOTE: Lincoln didn't know HIM.] ... |
And Adlai Stevenson :In America, anybody can be co-president. That's one of the risks you take. |
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Rumor has it William Jefferson Clinton himself is to recite Honest Abe's lines in this New Year's Eve pageant. Whoever writes these scripts has a natural talent for irony. For some irrepressible reason, one cannot help but think of that costume party in "The Manchurian Candidate,'' complete with Red Queen and Abe Lincoln in stovepipe hat and fake beard. Hillary Clinton says it's a great opportunity to unite the nation. (The way she's united New York?) But the Clintons are never so polarizing as when they are intent on uniting us. How can that be? Maybe it's their perfectly fabricated authenticity. The Nineties have had much the same effect, stirring the same vague dissatisfactions -- and sparking sudden outbursts of temper. What was it that poor, embarrassed David Brinkley, thinking his mike was off, said after the president's victory speech in '96¿ "We all look forward with great pleasure to four years of wonderful, inspiring speeches, full of wit, poetry, music, love and affection, plus more goddam nonsense.''
- Still not finished, Mr. Brinkley added that this president "has not a creative bone in his body. Therefore, he's a bore, and will always be a bore.'' Oh, dear. The commentator's unintentionally public thoughts were all the more embarrassing for being so widely shared by any Americans still sentient four years into the Age of Clinton. But it's one thing to notice such things, quite another to say them out loud. Why belabor the obvious?
Hey, what a party! New Year's at the White House |
- Mindless rhinestone-studded-and-tented kleptocracy
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by Mia T - John Podhoretz recently asked, "Whence comes hillary clinton's reputation for brilliance?" For the answer, he intuitively, rather brilliantly in fact, looked to her anatomy and noted,"This isn't the first time she's shot herself in the foot."
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![](http://members.aol.com/miat/images/image_025001.jpg) - The above anatomical analysis supports the Podhoretz thesis. Notwithstanding The Pod's erroneous conclusions concerning
HILLARY! clinton's heart and nerve, he basically has it right. Anatomy is destiny... -
- Ian Hunter recently observed that our leaders are shrinking. "From a Churchill (or, for that matter, a Margaret Thatcher) to a Tony Blair; from Eisenhower to Clinton; from Diefenbaker to Joe Clark; from Trudeau to Chretien -- we seem destined to be governed by pygmies."
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- The pols understand their anatomical limitations well; they attempt to mitigate them with veneer. And so we suffer mindless alpha-beta-beelzebubba grotesquerie. . .
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- and rhinestone-studded-and-tented kleptocracy.
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![](http://members.aol.com/miat/images/howshedidit.gif) - With all the media genuflecting before the press-conference podium of bill clinton, it bears remarking yet again that the clinton intellect (an oxymoron even more jarring than AlGoreRhythm and meant to encompass the cognitive ability of both clintons) is remarkable only for its utter ordinariness, its lack of creative spark, its lack of analytic precision, its lack of depth.
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- The clintons' fundamental error: They are too arrogant and dim-witted to understand that the demagogic process in this fiberoptic age isn't about counting spun heads; it's about not discounting circumambient brains.
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- Politicos and reporters are not rocket scientists . . .
- Professions tend to be self-selected, intellectually homogeneous subgroups of Homo sapiens. Great intellects (especially these days) do not generally gravitate towards careers in the media or politics. Mediocre, power-obsessed types with poor self-images do.
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- Thus, clinton mediocrity goes undetected primarily because of media mediocrity. ("Mediocrity" and "media" don't come from the same Latin root (medius) for no reason.) Insofar as the clintons are concerned, the media confuse form with substance, smoothness with coherence, data-spewing with ratiocination, pre-programmed recitation with real-time analysis, an idiosyncratic degeneracy with creativity.
- Jimmy Breslin agrees. In Hillary Is the 'Me-First' Lady, Breslin laments:
- "At the end of all these years and years that are being celebrated this week, the national press of America consists of people with dried minds and weak backbones and the pack of them can't utter a new phrase for the language or show the least bit of anger at a business or profession or trade or whatever this business is that is dying of mediocrity."
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- Listen carefully to the clintons. You will hear a shallow parody of the class president. Not only do they say nothing; they say nothing with superfluous ineloquence. Their speeches are sophomoric, shopworn, shallow, specious. Platitudinous pandering piled atop p.c. cliché
In seven years, they have, collectively, uttered not one memorable word save, "It was a vast right-wing conspiracy," "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky,"and, "It all depends on what the meaning of 'is' is." Even the clintons' attempts at alliteration fall flat. Compare Agnew's (Safire's) "nattering nabobs of negativism" with clinton's "preachers of pessimism," an impotent, one-dimensional, plagiaristic echo (its apt self-descriptiveness notwithstanding). Before they destroy their backs along with their reputations, media gentry genuflecting at the altar of the clinton brain should consider Edith Efron's, Can the President Think? A wasted brain is a terrible thing. -
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"My client had nothing to do with the low-rent, trailer-park trash politicians who infested our country for the past eight years."
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--Michael Rosen, lawyer for Thomas Gambino, son of late Mafia boss Carlo Gambino -
New York Post via The Wall Street Journal
(Michael Rosen was understandably eager to distance his client, a convicted loan shark, from the clintons. Another Thomas Gambino reportedly paid $50,000 to roger clinton in an unsuccessful effort to get a pardon for his father, Rosario Gambino.),
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- It's not easy to play fair against Mr. and Mrs. Clinton, who, in the words of the authors, "operated like a crime family, expecting friends and aides to protect them even against their own best interests." What's amazing, of course, is that's exactly what Clinton friends and aides have always done, from Susan McDougal to Webster Hubbell to flocks of nameless White House special assistants. Even Jim McDougal died just in time to deprive the independent counsel of a key witness against Mrs. Clinton, thus derailing what the authors report to have been her likely indictment for perjury and obstruction related to the Whitewater investigation....
Reading the tumultuous events of the Lewinsky probe in a comprehensive narrative is unlike attempting to make sense of it in daily doses. Something different comes through the heavy accumulation of detail of, for example, the duplicity of the Justice Department, or the sharklike behavior of the White House. One begins to get a choking sense of the atmosphere of corruption and ruthlessness the Clintons inhabit -- and, worse, have forced the rest of us to inhabit. Taken in one piece, the habitual, even casual abuse of power on display begins to resemble conditions one normally associates with a state of totalitarianism, where such concepts as truth and justice are only paid lip service. In the end, then, it makes you wonder when there will be fresh air again.
- -----Crime-family values
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- HEY, HEY MARY JO!
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- by Mia T
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- So many pardons 4 sale.
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- So many rodhams & clintons to nail.
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- Hey, hey Mary Jo!
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- Can you spell R-I-C-O?
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- Sen. KnowNothing Victim Clinton Holds News Conference
- EFFECTIVELY PLEADS 5TH BY INVOKING SPOUSAL PRIVILEGE
by Mia T
WASHINGTON- February 22. Sen. KnowNothing Victim Clinton held her premiere press conference today on Capitol Hill, ostensibly to answer questions about the peddling of White House pardons by her brother and her campaign treasurer. Notably absent among the press queries were any about her own involvement not only in those pardons, but in the larger universe of sold pardons--the incipient clinton scandal du jour--Pardongate. KnowNothing's brother, Hugh Rodham, secured two of the 141 clinton midnight pardons, one for a cocaine kingpin and the other for a snake-oil swindler. Rodham netted a quick $400,000 for his "work" according to various rodhams and clintons and their assorted lawyers. KnowNothing's campaign treasurer, William Cunningham III, himself a law partner of longtime KnowNothing adviser Harold Ickes, helped obtain last-minute pardons for two convicted felons. LA FAMIGLIA Displaying a willingness to throw her brother (along with her husband) to the wolves, Sen. Victim Clinton was quick to make a distinction between her big, bad brother's pardon "work" and that of her campaign treasurer, "a fine lawyer and a fine man." The "family" connection of brother Rodham to Clinton made brother Rodham's "work" bad, bad, bad, whereas the campaign treasurer Cunningham's connection to the senator and her campaign coffers made his securing of two pardons in record time a sterling example of highminded, effective public service. KnowNothing is apparently not the best of thinkers. If the "family" connection makes lobbying for cocaine-kingpin and snake-oil-swindler pardons bad, bad, bad for brother Rodham, then the "family" connection makes lobbying for the Hasidim 4 (see Keating 5) pardons bad, badder, baddest for the wife, First Lady and senator-elect. Moreover, pardons for votes is arguably worse than pardons for dough. EFFECTIVELY PLEADS 5TH BY INVOKING SPOUSAL PRIVILEGE KnowNothing specifically declined to answer when asked whether she discussed the pardons with her husband, effectively pleading the 5th. Turning aside questions about the pardon decisions her husband had made, she told reporters they should address those issues with him and his staff. She refused to say whether he should agree to appear voluntarily before congressional committees investigating the pardons. Interestingly, no one asked her whether she would agree to appear voluntarily before those same congressional committees. I DIDN'T HAVE SEX WITH THAT PARDON "I did not have any involvement in the pardons that were granted or not granted," insisted Sen. KnowNothing, seeming to forget her presence at the New-Square/Oval-Office schmooze that secured pardons for the four Hasidic felons who set up a phony school in Brooklyn to swindle the government out of millions intended for the poor. RESURRECTING RUFF KnowNothing noted that her"best memory" was that she never spoke to her brother or to Mr. Cunningham about the pardons. With variations of "I don't have a memory" and "my best memory, and avoiding the more obvious "I don't recall" and "my best recollection," KnowNothing reprised the Ruffian standard used during the clinton years to commit perjury without penalty. I GET LETTERS ...or more precisely, envelopes. During her denials of involvement in any of the pardons, KnowNothing made the curious claim: "People handed me envelopes, I passed them on [and never opened a single one. Honest.]" I AM VICTIM Reprising the role of victim that enabled her to win a senate seat in spite of record-high personal negatives and public failures, the senator peppered her answers about big, bad Hugh (understanding that the subtext was big, bad Bill) with "saddened" and "disappointed" and "heartbroken" and "shocked." UTTER CONTEMPT FOR THE PEOPLE This session today was cut short by a staffer when reporters appeared dissatisfied by Senator KnowNothing's lack of candor. In the end, this press conference full of poses, poll-tested phrases and prevarication was just another display of the clintons' utter contempt for the people. Bill Clinton committed the same error last Sunday in his shameless, lie-filled New York Times Pardongate Apologia. The clintons' fundamental error: They are too arrogant and dim-witted to understand that the demagogic process in this fiberoptic age isn't about counting spun heads; it's about not discounting circumambient brains.
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To: Mia T
Tom Daschle and this bitch need to be stopped and if you believe this bitch will never run for president I have some Enron Stock to sell you.
To: spectre
She is devoid of nuance.
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posted on
12/09/2001 7:52:46 AM PST
by
Mia T
To: ALOHA RONNIE
You don't have to ask for the questions ahead of time when it's democrat on democrat. They NEVER surprise each other unless the person has dropped to the Democrat "B" list party invite list.
ALL QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE, Please...
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posted on
12/09/2001 8:20:27 AM PST
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GOPJ
To: wisdomreach
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- It is very significant that this mutant couldn't deny clinton culpability for the terrorism. Of course, she tried the tired clinton tactic -- if you can't pass the entire buck, spread the blame around. It won't fly.
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I sincerely doubt that the Democratic establishment wants another congenitally inept and depraved clinton running the show... |
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![](http://images.amazon.com/images/P/630430837X.01.LZZZZZZZ.gif)
"Back in Chi' in the old days, we count the votes, and we keep counting them again and again until we get what we want."--Key Largo: Johnny Rocco - Chicago mobster, explaining his rise to power, boasting about fixing elections back in Chicago
GORE-DALEY-DEM ELECTION-THEFT-BY-MANUAL-RECOUNT PLOY DOCUMENTED BY DEMOCRAT ATTORNEY
- COROLLARY 1: Do Democrat Precincts Prefer Punch Card Over More Accurate Optical Scan Ballots PRECISELY to Enable This Type of Election Theft?
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- COROLLARY 2: Is hillary clinton's "win" (which required a massive election-day
- conversion of intractable hillary-haters) a result of Democrat Fraud?
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"Our strength is not in the ballot but in the counting...As long as I count the votes, what are you going to do about it?" -
--Boss Tweed, November 1871
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- "Downs told me, somewhat tongue-in-cheek, 'You get me within 100 votes and I can steal any election,'" Haueter told WorldNetDaily.
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- Nolan subsequently hired Downs and "brought him out to train my staff in the techniques they [Democrats] were using" so they could protect themselves against future election-fraud victimization, Nolan said.
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- Nolan and Haueter said Downs described three basic tactics:
- "The first rule is, you keep counting until you're ahead. And if that doesn't put you ahead, you recount, re-recount -- you keep counting until you're ahead. If you're behind, then you've got nothing to lose."
- Second, Nolan said, "the more times those ballots are handled, the more chance there is that chads will break loose" and hence disqualify the ballot.
- Third, he said, "the minute you're ahead, you stop and declare yourself the victor."
"After that, you don't want the ballots handled any more," Nolan said, "because some of the chads for your candidate might break loose. While you're behind it doesn't matter, but if you're ahead and more break off or become disqualified for your candidate, that's a bad thing." A favorite tactic, said Nolan, is to ask election officials for ballots, "allegedly so they can look at it more closely." When operatives do, often they will bend or crinkle ballots covertly in an effort to break another chad loose and thus have the ballot thrown out. "This whole process sounds like exactly what is going on in Florida," Nolan said. "And the more times those ballots are handled, the more chances are you'll break some of them [chads] loose." Nolan referred to Fox News' Tony Snow's weekend interview with Bush campaign representative and former Secretary of State James Baker, in which he asked Baker why -- after each time election officials run ballots through mechanical vote-tally machines -- there have been more votes counted or taken away from both candidates. "Baker didn't have an answer to that," Nolan said. "But the answer is, because they've handled those ballots more times, breaking loose more of those chads" -- those that perhaps weren't completely punched through.
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'How Democrats steal elections'
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Why the Manual Recount is Unconstitutional: - Due Process, Equal Protection and Carol Roberts
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- "Explicit statistical evidence of massive ballot tampering in Palm Beach, Fl"
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posted on
12/09/2001 8:20:35 AM PST
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Mia T
To: doug from upland
Afghan women must get the message. When they learn the truth, they will not allow the b*tch in their country. Excellent premonition, Doug.
- From the columns: You defend your own rights first
Turkish Daily News; Dec 1, 2001 -¦- http://globalarchive.ft.com/globalarchive/article.html?id=011201005019
HURRIYET (Turkish Daily News) Afghan women's response to Hillary: Afghanistan's first -- and legendary -- female general, Suheyla Siddiqi, scolded U.S. Senator Hillary Clinton for saying on various occasions that the Afghan women's rights should be defended. Referring to Mrs. Clinton, Siddiqi said, 'You cannot defend your rights towards your husband. How can you defend our rights? Saying that the western feminists had a fixation on the traditional burka worn by the Afghan women, she said, 'The burka existed before the Taliban came to power'.
Copyright © Asia Intelligence Wire
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Looks like her support dwindled to Tim and couple of NYC Talibans.
Comment #66 Removed by Moderator
To: Mia T; Angelique
![](http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20011209/capt.1007933527clinton_meet_the_press_wx115.jpg)
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., talks with reporters during the taping of "Meet The Press" at the NBC studios in Washington Sunday, Dec. 9, 2001
OH no! It's ole crusty with the organge blouse!!!! I hope Tim is wearing his face mask.
Check it out! No wedding band.
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posted on
12/10/2001 4:32:12 AM PST
by
Teacup
To: Teacup
Why wear a wedding ring when you are about to throw hubby to the dogs?
- hillary clinton blames hubby for terrorism (NB: SHE knew nuttin') (Meet the Press, 12-09-01)
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by Mia T, 12-10-01
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- Clinton's failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly organized extremists, coupled with Berger's assessments of their potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most serious foreign policy failures in American history
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Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize Bill Clinton may not be the worst president America has had, but surely he is the worst person to be president. -
---GEORGE WILL, Sleaze, the sequel
Had George Will written Sleaze, the sequel (the "sequel" is, of course, hillary) after 9-11-01, I suspect that he would have had to forgo the above conceit, as the doubt expressed in the setup phrase was, from that day forward, no longer operational. Indeed, assessing the clinton presidency an abject failure is not inconsistent with commentary coming from the left, most recently the LA Times: "Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize." When the clintons left office, I predicted that the country would eventually learn--sadly, the hard way--that this depraved, self-absorbed and inept pair had placed America (and the world) in mortal danger. But I was thinking years, not months. It is very significant that hillary clinton didn't deny clinton culpability for the terrorism. (Meet the Press, 12-09-01), notwithstanding tired tactics (if you can't pass the buck, spread the blame) and chronic self-exclusion. ("I knew nuttin'.") If leftist pandering keeps the disenfranchized down by design, clinton pandering,("it's the economy, stupid"), kept the middle and upper classes wilfully ignorant for eight years. And ironically, both results (leftist social policy and the clinton economy) are equally illusory, fraudulent. It is becoming increasingly clear that clinton assiduously avoided any action that would have negatively impacted the economy (which was the sole source of his continued power), actions like, say, going after the terrorists. It is critically important that hillary clinton fail in her grasp for power; read Peggy Noonan's little book, 'The Case Against Hillary Clinton' and Barbara Olson's two books; it is critical that the West de-clintonize, but that will be automatic once it is understood that the clintons risked civilization itself in order to gain and retain power. It shouldn't take books, however, to see that a leader is a dangerous, self-absorbed sicko. People should be able to figure that out for themselves. The electorate must be taught to think, to reason. It must be able to spot spin, especially in this age of the electronic demagogue. I am not hopeful. As Bertrand Russell noted, "Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so. " |
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posted on
12/10/2001 6:42:48 AM PST
by
Mia T
To: Mia T
Mega-Mia T thread...how could I have missed it?
To: Angelique
Glad I got this message Monday morning. Although watching Hillary on Sunday morning is not something I would do.
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posted on
12/10/2001 7:05:46 AM PST
by
stanz
To: f.Christian
If leftist pandering keeps the disenfranchized down by design, clinton pandering,("it's the economy, stupid"), kept the middle and upper classes wilfully ignorant for eight years. And ironically, both results (leftist social policy and the clinton economy) are equally illusory, fraudulent. It is becoming increasingly clear that clinton assiduously avoided any action that would have negatively impacted the economy (which was the sole source of his continued power), actions like, say, going after the terrorists.
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hillary clinton blames hubby for terrorism (NB: SHE knew nuttin') -
(Meet the Press, 12-09-01)
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posted on
12/10/2001 7:16:25 AM PST
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Mia T
To: Mia T
As many before me have said, it was Russert "kissing and making up" with Hillary. Russert never fails to disappoint me as far as his left wing bias. Hillary never fails to induce vomiting.
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posted on
12/10/2001 7:23:00 AM PST
by
1Old Pro
To: Mia T
To: 1Old Pro
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posted on
12/10/2001 7:46:41 AM PST
by
Mia T
To: Rudder; KJMorgan; Merovingian
Perhaps, you'll find Salon.com more comfy?
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posted on
12/10/2001 8:06:30 AM PST
by
Nephi
To: Nephi
Why? Are you resentful of honest criticism? One cartoon or 2, but so much that it takes forever to load in? Don't be so defensive, one who is comfortable with himself invites honest feedback, not lockstep ass-kissing agreement with everything.
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