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Bush Civil Rights Appointee Denied Seat by Commission, Refused Recognition
AP ^ | 12/7/01 | Will Lester

Posted on 12/07/2001 8:13:22 AM PST by Jean S

WASHINGTON (AP) - The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights refused Friday to seat - or even recognize - a new commissioner appointed by President Bush.

Cleveland labor lawyer Peter Kirsanow watched quietly from the audience as attempts by the three Republican commissioners to have him seated or acknowledged were repeatedly voted down 5-3. Kirsanow attempted to vote for the first 10 minutes of the session but he was ignored and eventually sat silent as his allies continued debate.

The meeting opened with an attempt by Republican commissioners to adjourn until the dispute over the commission's makeup is resolved. But Chairwoman Mary Frances Berry persuaded the commission to reject that effort, saying it is impossible to know when the legal dispute will be resolved.

Berry recounted how President Reagan fired her in 1983 and how she fought through the courts to get back on the board.

She said accepting the White House or Justice Department interpretation of the law on the commission's makeup "would threaten the very independence of the commission."

Commissioner Christopher Edley, an ally of Berry, said he has told House Democratic leader Dick Gephardt that the White House is trying to reshape the commission in an apparent retribution for some of his work.

Berry - a frequent critic of the 2000 elections and particularly of Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, younger brother of the president - presides over a panel on which six commissioners lean Democratic and two lean Republican. The White House has already announced it plans to appoint Jennifer Cabranes Braceras to replace Yvonne Lee, whose term is expiring in early December. If Kirsanow is seated, the commission would be split 4-4.

Kirsanow was sworn in Thursday night to fill the seat of Victoria Wilson, an independent whose term, the White House says, expired Nov. 29.

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said there was no legal merit to Berry's claim that Wilson's term has not expired, noting a ruling by the Justice Department's legal counsel and Clinton administration records that indicate it has expired. He denied rough politics on the White House's part, saying Kirsanow was installed within the letter of the law.

Berry said the White House's moves were "about muzzling us and it's scary to have them take all of this time and energy. It makes me even more afraid for the preservation of the commission."

The dispute between the Republican White House and a prominent black civil rights leader surprised the Bush team.

By taking the disputed seat held by Wilson, Kirsanow, a member of the largely conservative Center for New Black Leadership, would effectively rein in Berry's power over the commission.

The Bush administration maintains Wilson's term ended Nov. 29, when the term of the man she succeeded, Judge A. Leon Higginbotham Jr., would have expired. Higginbotham died in 1998.. This expiration date was spelled out in the Clinton administration's paperwork on Wilson's appointment, the White House says.

Berry argued the documents are wrong and are trumped by federal law, which says new commissioners will fill a six-year term.

Democratic Reps. John Conyers of Michigan and Jerrold Nadler of New York wrote Berry on Thursday to say the law as amended in 1994 reflects her interpretation.

The commission received a letter from the Justice Department late Thursday informing Berry that she is not allowed to retain outside legal help without Attorney General John Ashcroft's permission. Berry rejected that opinion.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: civilrights; kirsanow; maryfrancesberry
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To: Havisham
I hope she gets LOTs of TV time!! She's just another UGLY Lesbian Democrat who has a very mean streak!! SHOW HER OFTEN!!!
241 posted on 12/07/2001 12:10:42 PM PST by Ann Archy
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To: MurryMom
I even refreshed the page, just to see if you had bothered to respond to the intellectual beat-down you just took from FReepers demolishing your pathetic strawman arguement.

Naturally, nothing from you. Just your usual troll, huh?

Do you have anything to add, other than the same old innane, banal leftist knee jerk?

242 posted on 12/07/2001 12:11:23 PM PST by Skynet
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To: Ann Archy
YEA the more America sees her...they will understand she is only shooting for 7 OTHERS like herself. Berry will only be happy once this GROUP is all black liberal lesbian females.
243 posted on 12/07/2001 12:15:50 PM PST by antivenom
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To: MurryMom
You're not even trying anymore. What a killjoy.
244 posted on 12/07/2001 12:16:38 PM PST by Petronski
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To: Defiant
I guess it's an attempt to muzzle people whenever we have an election and a new President appoints the people he wants to run the country. What a bunch of crap.

Only when it is a Republican President. Mary Berry is of the group that fought the President in Florida, held those bogus hearings on supposed desenfrachisement by Blacks and others, and is just belligerent and power crazed.

President Bush should not bow down to this disrespect, and should have his appointee seated with troops if that is what it takes to stop Mary Contrary. She should be removed, bodily, from the commission.

245 posted on 12/07/2001 12:18:21 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: MurryMom
"Facts are the mortal enemy of all liberals"

That's what MFB and MurryMom are afraid of. If the makeup of the Civil Rights Commision reverts to 50-50 Rep-Dem instead of 2 Rep - 6 Dem, the truth might come out about all the financial shenanegins of MFB. Plus of course, their fictional report on the 2000 Presidential Election might get replaced by a report that contains facts.

P.S. MurryMom - don't try to BS this by saying that MFB and Wilson are Independent. If they are independent then the Pope is Moslem and the Clintons are ethical.

246 posted on 12/07/2001 12:19:39 PM PST by PortugeeJoe
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To: Defiant
" think it's time for O'Reilly to look into this lady's finances."

Have you brought this to his attention?

247 posted on 12/07/2001 12:23:37 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: aristeides
I am afraid you might be right, the Clintons put their patsies in place over the entire country, and they are still there.
248 posted on 12/07/2001 12:27:13 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: JeanS
Today's meeting of the commission is being carried (delayed) currently on C-SPAN.
249 posted on 12/07/2001 12:35:23 PM PST by jackbill
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To: aristeides
Is this woman kin to Marion Berry?
250 posted on 12/07/2001 12:36:24 PM PST by fleebag
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To: fleebag
post-op.
251 posted on 12/07/2001 12:37:06 PM PST by clintonh8r
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To: MurryMom
LOL!! Ever since the disputed '00 election Repukies have done all they can to wipe out the votes and other civil rights of minorities, and to dilute the votes of minority members of the CRC, and they still don't get it!

Repeat after me - facts, logic, reasoning. You seem so very angry. So very, very angry.

252 posted on 12/07/2001 12:38:18 PM PST by Fury
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To: All
Berry is on CSpan now. Watch C-Span here.
253 posted on 12/07/2001 12:39:57 PM PST by Jean S
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To: Constitution Day
M.F.B.

I will never be able to see her without thinking of that now! I love it, and LOL!

254 posted on 12/07/2001 12:40:53 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: JeanS
Typical DemonRAT B.S. The order of law means nothing to them, unless they have a personal hissy. So give 'em one: fire the entire lot and lets see how quickly they run to court (bitching in every open microphine along the way).
255 posted on 12/07/2001 12:41:57 PM PST by Corporate Law
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To: ladyinred
M.F.B.

She really is, isn't she?

256 posted on 12/07/2001 12:42:19 PM PST by jackbill
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To: lady lawyer
If they had the votes to cut off funding, they'd have the votes to disband it.

Its hard to read how the "moderates" would go. Sometimes the political cover offered by a vote against a funding authorization is a little more substantial than that available for a vote to abolish something that is perceived to be popular among "the disadvantaged". They can claim cover under the umbrella of "fiscal restraint" if they vote to defund something. The risks are fewer in pi$$ing off a few federal bureaucrats than those for arousing a sizable voting bloc that is easily whipped into a hysteria by the race baiters and poverty pimps. Not to mention the lamestream press, who'd crucify anyone voting to abolish this corrupt and politicized "commission".

But, whatever. The time comes when the 'Pubs will just have to stand up to the cowardly and despicable tactics of the 'Rats. They should throw this whole mess right back into the ugly, rotten face of Berry. If the chairperson of such a panel is willing to be so racially divisive and mean-spirited, its time for the 'Pubs to take to the barricades.

257 posted on 12/07/2001 12:43:52 PM PST by chimera
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To: ladyinred; jackbill
re: "M.F.B."

Thank you, thank you!
I thought no one had noticed.

258 posted on 12/07/2001 12:44:03 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: baltoga
"Are we making a lot of hay out of essentially a petty office squabble?"

Could it be that that's exactly what the liberal media along with the RATS want you to believe, assuming of course that you've gotten wind of it at all?

259 posted on 12/07/2001 12:44:49 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: MurryMom
Wow, Moron Alert!

MurryMom, please give us one example, backed up with facts, of the Republicans trying to selectively eliminate votes of minorities in this country.

260 posted on 12/07/2001 12:45:38 PM PST by tgiles
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