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Bush Civil Rights Appointee Denied Seat by Commission, Refused Recognition
AP ^ | 12/7/01 | Will Lester

Posted on 12/07/2001 8:13:22 AM PST by Jean S

WASHINGTON (AP) - The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights refused Friday to seat - or even recognize - a new commissioner appointed by President Bush.

Cleveland labor lawyer Peter Kirsanow watched quietly from the audience as attempts by the three Republican commissioners to have him seated or acknowledged were repeatedly voted down 5-3. Kirsanow attempted to vote for the first 10 minutes of the session but he was ignored and eventually sat silent as his allies continued debate.

The meeting opened with an attempt by Republican commissioners to adjourn until the dispute over the commission's makeup is resolved. But Chairwoman Mary Frances Berry persuaded the commission to reject that effort, saying it is impossible to know when the legal dispute will be resolved.

Berry recounted how President Reagan fired her in 1983 and how she fought through the courts to get back on the board.

She said accepting the White House or Justice Department interpretation of the law on the commission's makeup "would threaten the very independence of the commission."

Commissioner Christopher Edley, an ally of Berry, said he has told House Democratic leader Dick Gephardt that the White House is trying to reshape the commission in an apparent retribution for some of his work.

Berry - a frequent critic of the 2000 elections and particularly of Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, younger brother of the president - presides over a panel on which six commissioners lean Democratic and two lean Republican. The White House has already announced it plans to appoint Jennifer Cabranes Braceras to replace Yvonne Lee, whose term is expiring in early December. If Kirsanow is seated, the commission would be split 4-4.

Kirsanow was sworn in Thursday night to fill the seat of Victoria Wilson, an independent whose term, the White House says, expired Nov. 29.

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said there was no legal merit to Berry's claim that Wilson's term has not expired, noting a ruling by the Justice Department's legal counsel and Clinton administration records that indicate it has expired. He denied rough politics on the White House's part, saying Kirsanow was installed within the letter of the law.

Berry said the White House's moves were "about muzzling us and it's scary to have them take all of this time and energy. It makes me even more afraid for the preservation of the commission."

The dispute between the Republican White House and a prominent black civil rights leader surprised the Bush team.

By taking the disputed seat held by Wilson, Kirsanow, a member of the largely conservative Center for New Black Leadership, would effectively rein in Berry's power over the commission.

The Bush administration maintains Wilson's term ended Nov. 29, when the term of the man she succeeded, Judge A. Leon Higginbotham Jr., would have expired. Higginbotham died in 1998.. This expiration date was spelled out in the Clinton administration's paperwork on Wilson's appointment, the White House says.

Berry argued the documents are wrong and are trumped by federal law, which says new commissioners will fill a six-year term.

Democratic Reps. John Conyers of Michigan and Jerrold Nadler of New York wrote Berry on Thursday to say the law as amended in 1994 reflects her interpretation.

The commission received a letter from the Justice Department late Thursday informing Berry that she is not allowed to retain outside legal help without Attorney General John Ashcroft's permission. Berry rejected that opinion.


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KEYWORDS: civilrights; kirsanow; maryfrancesberry
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To: aristeides
Berry's Achilles heel is money. According to the GAO, under her chairmanship the commission has been "an agency in disarray," failing to comply with cost accounting requirements or to produce its records in accordance with its legal obligation to do so.

This would easily satisfy the malfeasance requirement for her dismissal.

221 posted on 12/07/2001 11:38:52 AM PST by Bonaparte
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To: JeanS
The dispute between the Republican White House and a prominent black civil rights leader surprised the Bush team.

LOL!! Ever since the disputed '00 election Repukies have done all they can to wipe out the votes and other civil rights of minorities, and to dilute the votes of minority members of the CRC, and they still don't get it!

Who says little Dumbya doesn't deserve the name by which I usually refer to him in my posts?

222 posted on 12/07/2001 11:39:44 AM PST by MurryMom
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To: JeanS
If you follow the link at the bottom of the Salon article there is an interesting piece about the GAO report of mismanagement in her little fifedom. I found the last paragraphs to be extremely telling about how demo's work. Even tho they apparently couldn't stand her either, they kept her around...

Concerns about Berry's management and personal style have a long history. But few of her critics will talk on the record, which has made documenting her troubles difficult. Enough of them were willing to speak off the record to the Washington Monthly magazine that in 1987 it nominated her for a "Powers That Shouldn't Be" piece, naming public officials who shouldn't be nominated by the next Democratic president. The magazine reported that when Berry was assistant secretary of education under President Carter, officials there cut her out of policy decisions because "she'd shatter consensus and jeopardize initiatives ... she distrusted people [so] as to not be trustworthy herself ..." "Oh, I remember Mary," a former Carter aide told Salon News. "She was a real loose cannon. We spent a lot of time smoothing over things after she'd opened her big mouth."

223 posted on 12/07/2001 11:41:59 AM PST by Clintons Are White Trash
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To: MurryMom
Weak troll...
224 posted on 12/07/2001 11:42:57 AM PST by mvscal
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To: mvscal
Thanks for the clarification. My money is on GW & Co.
225 posted on 12/07/2001 11:43:25 AM PST by JD86
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To: MurryMom
Whenever I see your name I click on your post for a laugh.I'm sure you won't mind providing an example of someone whos rights were violated by Republicans?While your looking chew on this.It was reported that in the Florida elections the majority of blacks that had a problem having their vote count were Republican.Funny huh?
227 posted on 12/07/2001 11:45:20 AM PST by linn37
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To: aristeides
Oh, yes! Did I forget to add that Berry is a presidential appointee (Carter/1980), and not a Congressional appointee? This means the current President can remove her.
228 posted on 12/07/2001 11:45:22 AM PST by Bonaparte
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To: MurryMom
and to dilute the votes of minority members of the CRC

How does the appointment of a black man, a minority, dilute the votes of minorities on the commission? Especially since he is replacing a white women!

Don't worry, i am not expecting a reply from your febble brain cell. But it would be nice to see you try.

229 posted on 12/07/2001 11:47:40 AM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: MurryMom
Yeah, they should have known the bitch has no respect for the law, and has a repulsively oversized sense of entitlement.
230 posted on 12/07/2001 11:50:09 AM PST by clintonh8r
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To: StarFan; Darth Reagan; dei23
HA! You have to click on this link to the FederalReview.com Poll Page It is worth the click. Trust me. I remember visiting the site a while back and it just came back to me and I had to post the link. Check it out.
231 posted on 12/07/2001 11:53:12 AM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: JeanS
Two words....Banana Republic!!!
233 posted on 12/07/2001 11:54:10 AM PST by Ann Archy
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To: Phantom Lord
How does the appointment of a black man, a minority, dilute the votes of minorities on the commission? Especially since he is replacing a white women!

Ahhh, but you're forgetting that the only 'minority' opinion that counts is a liberal one. No true minority would be allowed to have a conservative view. After all, liberals are the only ones competent to interpret the "true intent" of minorities.

234 posted on 12/07/2001 11:55:41 AM PST by Helix
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To: Congressman Billybob
The elimination of Cruz Reynoso, Maurice Grodin and Rose Bird from the California Supreme Court was a textbook-perfect political play pulled off by Gov. George Deukmejian and the state Republican Party. In 1986, Deukmejian was running for re-election, and four California Supreme Court justices were up for reconfirmation. Reynoso, Grodin and Chief Justice Bird were Jerry Brown appointees, and Stanley Mosk was a Pat Brown appointee.

Two PAC’s were aiming at Bird alone. Another was gunning for Bird, Reynoso and Grodin. Another had all four in its sights. With this kind of chaos the three prime offenders would have survived had not Deukmejian intervened.

Early in 1986, the heads of the four PAC’s got an invitation to come down to the governor’s office for a chat. The heads knew they would get a chance to make their pitch, but doubted that Deukmejian would risk his political capital in their cause with his own re-election in the balance. But did they ever get a shock!

Deukmejian told the PAC heads that he would support their cause and bring in the official might of the California Republican Party, thus making the reconfirmation battle a campaign issue. But the PAC’s had to agree to certain ground rules.

This controversial demand by Deukmejian turned out to be pure genius. Stanley Mosk had been on the California Supreme Court for two decades, having been appointed by Pat Brown. He was one of the most respected state jurists in the country. Deukmejian felt that tackling Mosk would make the effort to remove Reynoso, Grodin and Bird look like the work of extremists and thus damn the whole campaign. By publicly characterizing Mosk as a “responsible liberal” and damning the other three as “radical liberals”, the effort looked like the work of reasonable conservatives.

Besides, Mosk was a canny politician, and Deukmejian knew he would be a dangerous target. But once the three Jerry Brown appointees were gone and replaced by conservatives, Mosk and Alan Broussard would be isolated on the court and left powerless.

The state’s liberal establishment cranked up the machinery, and the institutional Democratic Party turned the reconfirmation of the three justices into party dogma. Democratic officeholders in marginal districts knew that the three were doomed and refused to back reconfirmation. The party then denied them campaign funds. This prompted a massive rebellion within the party outside of the cities. Democratic officeholders ran to Sacramento and screamed that the party brass was going to destroy them all in the name of political correctness. The decision about funding was reversed.

The Los Angeles Times then stepped in it big time by coming up with a convoluted—and ridiculous—reason to support the three justices. According to the US Constitution federal judges were to be insulated from the vagaries and whims of public opinion by the mechanism of lifetime appointment. The California Constitution’s reconfirmation provision was a flaw that permitted state judges to be voted upon and permitted court decisions to be judged by a public not competent to make such judgments. Therefore, reasoned the Times, the people must not make use of this flaw. The people were honor-bound and duty-bound to vote to reconfirm the three justices no matter how they felt about their decisions. It was a smarmy piece of logic and worked to the detriment of the liberal argument.

Bird lost by 3 to 1, and Grodin and Reynoso lost by 2 to 1. Mosk sailed to victory.

Either Clinton or Congress must have put Reynoso on the Civil Rights Commission as part of a jobs-for-the-boys program.

235 posted on 12/07/2001 11:57:48 AM PST by Publius
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To: JeanS
Perhaps I am misreading something, but it certainly appears to me that they are saying:

"We're gonna do what we want to do how we want to do it and we don't care if the highest legal authority of the land or even the president says we can't. We have our own ideas about what blacks are supposed to be and we'll be d****d if we're gonna let some uppity conservative ****** challenge that. We do, after all, have to continue justifying the existence of the Democtatic Party no matter how ridiculous it is. Therefore, up yours Mr. Ashcroft and yours too Mr. President!"

Isn't there some enforceable law on the books that can be used to deal with this kind of blatant insubordination? And liberals wonder why we detest them!

236 posted on 12/07/2001 11:58:01 AM PST by sweetliberty
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To: mvscal
If each appointment gets a six-year term, then any president could protect his alliance by having a mass resignation at the end of his term, and then reappointing all the same commissioners to new six-year terms. That doesn't seem to be what the Congress had in mind when they set the length of service in law.
237 posted on 12/07/2001 12:04:01 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Helix
I know as well as you know that that is how liberals think. I was hoping to get MurryMom to say it.
238 posted on 12/07/2001 12:06:36 PM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: sweetliberty
Isn't there some enforceable law on the books that can be used to deal with this kind of blatant insubordination?

The US Civil Rights Commission was designed to be independent, and thus the president is not boss of anyone on the commission. So there is no insubordination involved.

Don't worry about it. Bush will handle this one through the courts and win it there.

Revenge is a dish best served cold. Just wait.

239 posted on 12/07/2001 12:08:14 PM PST by Publius
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To: princess leah
""...anyone else sense a sequal by the current President...umm Ms. Berry, President Bush would like to see you in his office NOW~"

Oh let's hope so. These kind of people need to be taken down and put in their place! I mean, she's backed by Conyers and Nadler; that should say enough about the kind of racist liberal loser she is.

240 posted on 12/07/2001 12:09:31 PM PST by sweetliberty
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