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Bush Civil Rights Appointee Denied Seat by Commission, Refused Recognition
AP ^ | 12/7/01 | Will Lester

Posted on 12/07/2001 8:13:22 AM PST by Jean S

WASHINGTON (AP) - The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights refused Friday to seat - or even recognize - a new commissioner appointed by President Bush.

Cleveland labor lawyer Peter Kirsanow watched quietly from the audience as attempts by the three Republican commissioners to have him seated or acknowledged were repeatedly voted down 5-3. Kirsanow attempted to vote for the first 10 minutes of the session but he was ignored and eventually sat silent as his allies continued debate.

The meeting opened with an attempt by Republican commissioners to adjourn until the dispute over the commission's makeup is resolved. But Chairwoman Mary Frances Berry persuaded the commission to reject that effort, saying it is impossible to know when the legal dispute will be resolved.

Berry recounted how President Reagan fired her in 1983 and how she fought through the courts to get back on the board.

She said accepting the White House or Justice Department interpretation of the law on the commission's makeup "would threaten the very independence of the commission."

Commissioner Christopher Edley, an ally of Berry, said he has told House Democratic leader Dick Gephardt that the White House is trying to reshape the commission in an apparent retribution for some of his work.

Berry - a frequent critic of the 2000 elections and particularly of Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, younger brother of the president - presides over a panel on which six commissioners lean Democratic and two lean Republican. The White House has already announced it plans to appoint Jennifer Cabranes Braceras to replace Yvonne Lee, whose term is expiring in early December. If Kirsanow is seated, the commission would be split 4-4.

Kirsanow was sworn in Thursday night to fill the seat of Victoria Wilson, an independent whose term, the White House says, expired Nov. 29.

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said there was no legal merit to Berry's claim that Wilson's term has not expired, noting a ruling by the Justice Department's legal counsel and Clinton administration records that indicate it has expired. He denied rough politics on the White House's part, saying Kirsanow was installed within the letter of the law.

Berry said the White House's moves were "about muzzling us and it's scary to have them take all of this time and energy. It makes me even more afraid for the preservation of the commission."

The dispute between the Republican White House and a prominent black civil rights leader surprised the Bush team.

By taking the disputed seat held by Wilson, Kirsanow, a member of the largely conservative Center for New Black Leadership, would effectively rein in Berry's power over the commission.

The Bush administration maintains Wilson's term ended Nov. 29, when the term of the man she succeeded, Judge A. Leon Higginbotham Jr., would have expired. Higginbotham died in 1998.. This expiration date was spelled out in the Clinton administration's paperwork on Wilson's appointment, the White House says.

Berry argued the documents are wrong and are trumped by federal law, which says new commissioners will fill a six-year term.

Democratic Reps. John Conyers of Michigan and Jerrold Nadler of New York wrote Berry on Thursday to say the law as amended in 1994 reflects her interpretation.

The commission received a letter from the Justice Department late Thursday informing Berry that she is not allowed to retain outside legal help without Attorney General John Ashcroft's permission. Berry rejected that opinion.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: civilrights; kirsanow; maryfrancesberry
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To: JeanS
Berry recounted how President Reagan fired her in 1983 and how she fought through the courts to get back on the board.

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. GWB should waste no time.

141 posted on 12/07/2001 9:35:03 AM PST by Twins613
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To: ken5050
I just called the Civil Rights Commision and reported that Mary Frances Berry had violated the civil rights of Peter Kirsanow and asked for her immediate resignation.

The woman who answered the phone was a little confused by my report and obviously very po'd. Apparently the phone there is ringing off the hook. I got an answering machine the first three times, hung up on on the 4th call, and finally reached someone on the fifth call.

I believe president Bush announce immediately that Mary Frances Berry has been removed from her position for malfeasance in office by refusing to seat a rightfully appointed commisioner. He should release to the press the documents that state that Wilson's appointment was until November 29, 2001.

He should then appoint a replacement for the MFB and reconvene the Commission and have them toss their fictional report on the 2000 Presidential Election down the toilet.

142 posted on 12/07/2001 9:35:09 AM PST by PortugeeJoe
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To: Phantom Lord
Of course, if he wins reelection then it doesnt matter

WHEN he wins reelection a precedent will have been set, if this is permitted to fly. It must be nipped in the bud now.

143 posted on 12/07/2001 9:37:05 AM PST by StarFan
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To: yikes
ROFLOL
144 posted on 12/07/2001 9:37:58 AM PST by agrace
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To: StarFan
From the July 16th Washington Times "Inside Politics"...

Berry was speaking to the NAACP convention in New Orleans last week. She told the assembled delegates that, before Jim Jeffords departed the Republican Party and gave the Senate to the Democrats, "I was just wondering when Strom Thurmond was gonna die."

145 posted on 12/07/2001 9:40:30 AM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: JeanS
LIBERALS cause NAUSEA among us who are patriots of liberty. the commission should be scrapped as a shill for the liberal democrat party.
146 posted on 12/07/2001 9:40:55 AM PST by stand watie
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To: Havisham; JeanS
Havisham -- what e-mail address did you use when sending your letter. I received the following:

"A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: wwwadmin@usccr.gov"

147 posted on 12/07/2001 9:40:59 AM PST by StarFan
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To: StarFan
Link to law in my reply #133.
The law, unfortunately, is not as clear as you might think.
148 posted on 12/07/2001 9:41:33 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: JeanS
Berry recounted how President Reagan fired her in 1983

Good. Time for an encore by President Bush.

149 posted on 12/07/2001 9:44:57 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Havisham
President Bush was well aware of what she is like. She just spent the better part of a year trashing his brother and his administration in Florida.

This isn't the most important thing, right now, and I think it was probably handled as best as it could be. Remember, you don't want a big scene on Friday, going into the weekend shows, especially with Senator Clinton so conveniently scheduled for "Meet the Press" on Sunday.

Have some patience.

150 posted on 12/07/2001 9:45:10 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: JeanS
As soon as this is settled Bush needs to designate a new chairperson who will investigate the real voting rights outrage in Florida: Criminal ballot tampering leading to the disenfranchisment of Republican voters. (Black republicans were 50 TIMES more likely than black democrats to have their ballots "spoiled". The same tendency, if less dramatically, holds for republicans generally.)

Black Republicans Suffered Worst in Florida Vote Count

GOP Was the Real Victim in Fla. Vote

151 posted on 12/07/2001 9:45:16 AM PST by Stultis
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To: JeanS
Berry - a frequent critic of the 2000 elections and particularly of Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, younger brother of the president - presides over a panel on which six commissioners lean Democratic ...

Lean?
Lean?
They don't lean,they positively wallow!!

152 posted on 12/07/2001 9:45:24 AM PST by SusanUSA
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To: Phantom Lord; Miss Marple; StarFan; eastforker; Howlin
Wait until you all read this article I found on Ms. Berry at Salon.....

Berry takes over Pacifica Radio

This lady will even turn on the dems if push comes to shove.

153 posted on 12/07/2001 9:45:42 AM PST by Dog
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To: deport
I think the "neglect of duty" clause should be used to bring action against those failing to seat the properly appointed replacement. A formal charge will bring this to a head. Paging Bob Barr.
154 posted on 12/07/2001 9:46:04 AM PST by KC Burke
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To: ken5050
she'll file a complaint with the US Civil Rights commission

I think she may have a problem with that, too. The councilperson (white) is being replaced by a black man. Good Luck, Mzzzzzz Berry!

155 posted on 12/07/2001 9:46:05 AM PST by kachina
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To: mrsmith
No, it isn't clear at all. This specific situation is not addressed. There has to be another section somewhere that covers this mess or at least some precedent or custom.
156 posted on 12/07/2001 9:46:22 AM PST by mvscal
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To: StarFan
I'll give them a few hours before I begin a squeaky wheel campaign in the hopes of seeing only her elbows and ass in view on national TV as the Marshalls escort her out.

Well, thanks and good luck. I went to their website during the Florida hearings and I found it to be the most bureaucratic maze conceivable. The Commission is clearly constructed so as to be untouchable, inaccessible to the people, and the most unchecked power in the Justice Department. It scared and depressed me that one visibly disturbed Commissioner was doing all she could to shatter racial goodwill and that nobody could correct this foam-flecked lefty's personally driven, and deeply neurotic agenda.

157 posted on 12/07/2001 9:47:03 AM PST by Havisham
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To: FryingPan101
All communists have no respect for laws that work against them. Kinda' explaines "moral relativism" as introduced to our legal system by the clintons.
158 posted on 12/07/2001 9:47:42 AM PST by Constitutional Patriot
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To: StarFan; Miss Marple; Howlin; eastforker
Another tidbit from the same article....

Possible Berry mis-management of US Civils Commission

Focus on the first TWO PARAGRAPHS

159 posted on 12/07/2001 9:50:56 AM PST by Dog
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To: KC Burke
Look at my link in #159....possible money troubles with the commission monies....
160 posted on 12/07/2001 9:53:19 AM PST by Dog
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