Posted on 12/06/2001 2:50:38 PM PST by Dr. Octagon
Under your scenario, my taxes are still being confiscated to teach other people's children the whole anti-Christian pro-Humanist agenda. It doesn't appear that I get much choice in the matter, mmmm?
Private schools are a good thing. Ending Government-financed schools is a better thing.
First problem: This money was "stolen" from ALL tax payers, not just the parents. It should not be the responsibilty of Free citizens to support other people's children. We also need to do away with compulsory attendence laws. Private scholarships could be provided by organizations, companies and the schools themselves to go toward the educations of low-income families whose children genuinely wished to attend school as those who do not wish to be there are usually the ones doing nothing but causing trouble and distraction.
Someone (2sheep) mentioned John Dewey. It's even worse than one might think. The ideals espoused by Dewey can summed up in one word - Humanism; as evidenced by the following:
"The battle for humankind's future must be waged and won in the public school classroom by teachers who correctly perceive their role as the proselytizers of a new faith. ....The classroom must and will become an arena of conflict between the old and the new--the rotting corpse of Christianity and the new faith of Humanism." "A Religion for a New Age," The Humanist - January/February 1983, p. 26.
Humanism teaches that ALL things are relative, that there are no such things as right and wrong and that no personal decision is ever wrong. How can we expect our Nation's children to grow up to become responsible, caring citizens when they are bombarded by these concepts from kindegarten through college? Answer is, unless those children have VERY involved parents, we probably can't.
The fastest way to change the public school system is to stop using it's services.
Happily, more and more people are beginning to realize the same thing the Communists recognized over 100 years ago - he who controls the teaching of the young, controls the Country.
Sorry for what might be considered a "vanity post" around here but, if you anyone would like a brief run down (with links to the government sites for follow-up) concerning Outcome Based Education, Goals 2000, School to Work or the NEA, please visit our web site at:
The Wilson County Parents Coalition There's an entire section (plus the home page) devoted to these programs.
*US Supreme Court Refuses to Hear Ten Commandments Case (see 9 and 18)
And I thought this was the last straw:
**Courting Muslims, Bush to Take Part in Ramadan Dinner
"Regarding ecumenicism. Good King Jehosaphat unfortunately fell for it too in II Chronicles 18:3: "..I am as thou art, and my people as thy people; and we will be with thee in the war."David said: Ps 26:5 I have hated the congregation of evil doers; and will not sit with the wicked.God's comment was not heartening: II Chron 19:2: "Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD."
That does not bode well for those endorsing ecumenical prayer meetings." As in the Days of Noah
David said: Ps 68:1 Let God arise, let his enemies be scattered: let them also that hate him flee before him.
2 As smoke is driven away, so drive them away: as wax melteth before the fire, so let the wicked perish at the presence of God.
David said: Ps 141:4 Incline not my heart to any evil thing, to practise wicked works with men that work iniquity: and let me not eat of their dainties.
Ps 15:1 <<A Psalm of David.>> LORD, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in thy holy hill?
2 He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and speaketh the truth in his heart.
3 He that backbiteth not with his tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbour, nor taketh up a reproach against his neighbour.
4 In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but he honoureth them that fear the LORD. He that sweareth to his own hurt, and changeth not.
5 He that putteth not out his money to usury, nor taketh reward against the innocent. He that doeth these things shall never be moved.
Ps 139:19 Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men.
20 For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain.
21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
Jas 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
2Jo 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
Well, we started our little "war" when our local school district decided to implement a uniform policy AGAINST the wishes of most of the parents and we found out what all was tied up with it (federal funds, school to work, etc.). I put the web site together then we organized rallies all around the county and told parents everything we had been able to find out about these programs, where they came from and where they were headed. More people than I would have believed actually showed up and payed attention.
After not getting anywhere by playing nicey with the school board, we sued in federal court over the uniform policy and the fact that they decided that the students couldn't even protest same on school grounds and won (over a year later). They still have what they like to call a "standardized dress code" BUT, the children can now wear any colors they choose and can speak out against the code without fear of reprisal. Before we finally won the court case, three of our "esteemed" school board members came up for election. Well, since I couldn't find anyone who WANTED to run, I did! We never spent a dime, never put out the first yard sign nor poster and only campaigned by word of mouth and only lost by 6%. My district doesn't come back open for 2 more years but, you can safely bet that I'll be in the running again if I haven't decided to try for something a little higher up the bureaucratic food chain at the state level!
After doing tons of research, losing sleep reading and meeting with folks all over the place, I've about come to the conclusion that the only way to stop this nonsense is going to have to begin at the state level. Get each state to rescind their education contracts with the feds and attempt to return the schools to REAL local control. Of course, so many people are enamored with the Republican party that they can't believe the Repubs. are backing all of this, too, that the job will certainly not be easy. I'm getting accustomed to it, though, so it may not really be THAT big of a problem in the end.
Aside from running my mouth every chance I get, I still maintain the web site and write editorials occassionally for one of our local newspapers. I also have the honor of sharing my views on the current state of affairs in education on the Federal Observer's web site after they contacted me a few months back with questions regarding Goals 2000.
Also, to give credit where credit is due, the ACLU has helped us out quite a bit, although, probably inadvertenly in some cases. They put us in touch with the attorneys who represented us in federal court after reading our story on the Freedom Forum's web site and have referred me out to talk radio hosts as a "national anti-school uniform consultant". I've been able to make some excellent contacts through those and, of course, we are contacted a LOT by parents in other areas who find our web site when beginning their own research.
It's been time consuming and, even, exhausting at times but, we feel that it's been time and effort well spent. If we can help to "wake up" just one more parent and help them see the dangers inherent in government run schools, then we have accomplished a great deal of what we set out to do.
Sorry to be so long winded but, as you pointed out in an earlier post, this is a pretty lengthy subject.
How did you first begin to get a handle on Outcome Based Education and all that it entails?
Malcolm, no one's beliefs are being discouraged or taught to be wrong. In fact, no beliefs are being taught at all, which is how public schools should work. If schools taught children what to believe, our society would turn into somewhat of a communism. People have freedom to pursue any religious beliefs they want, but those who prefer not to be educated further about God should also be given the freedom of not having it shoved down their throats.
I want my children to have the same freedoms and be able to enjoy the same things that I did as a child (dodge ball, musical chairs, Christianity, target shooting and hunting, well, you get the drift..) without fear of some neo-Nazi being able to turn them in to big brother for having non-PC thoughts. Know what I mean?
Keep spreadin' the word - the sheople are finally beginning to get their collective heads out of the sand and pay attention to all that we have given up during the last 40 or so years to the socialist and those who wish to restructure our society and our beliefs and values in the name of diversity. I have NO intention of "valuing" diversity if it means having to accept perversions as normal nor see it imparted to our children.
Back to the trenches!!!
As long as schools were being controlled locally, they adhered to local attitudes, values and beliefs whether they be Christian or otherwise. When the feds stepped in during the 1960s, that fairy tale came to a screeching halt and look at the mess we have now! Some people (who were, for the most part "taught" in public schools themselves) screaming at the mere mention of God or right and wrong while others decry the drop in morals and responsible citizens since God was, in essence, removed from public life. Remove the government monopoly/bureaucracy and schools not only become cheaper to maintain, they reflect the wishes of the parents and community or they go out of business. AHHHH - capitalism at its finest.....
I have a serious question: If the schools are funded by the government, and Atheism is a religion, has the government established a religion? Therefore, are not the government schools allowed to ban prayer and the ten commandments? Just been thinking about this lately...
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