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House Painter for Nicole Brown Had Serial Murder Background
'Cross Country Killer' -The Glen Rodgers Story ^ | December 5, 2001 | Joyce Spizer and Claude Rodgers Jr.

Posted on 12/05/2001 7:22:24 AM PST by codebreaker

The Cross Country Killer, the Glen Rodgers story provides an insighful look into the mind and making of an American predator.

Glen Rodgers, twice on America's most 10 Wanted List, is currently on Death Row in Florida.

He brags about having killed 70 people, one of which may have been Nicole Brown Simpson.

Could it be a coincedence she was murdered just after meeting Glen?

There are witnesses who saw them partying together and there's even a photo of them together.

A sad but fascinating story that will keep you mesmorized till the end.


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To: hobbes1
They planted all the evidence before they knew if OJ had an alibi? At the time the evidence was supposedly planted they had no idea of his whereabouts at the time of the murder. So it seems odd they would plant all this evidence only to have it turn out OJ was, say, in another part of the world at the time, thus implicating themselves in planting it.

And, as far, as no damage to himself (give someone a big knife against two suprised, defenseless people and its not to hard to come away unscathed), what do call deep, fingernail shaped gashes on his fingers? You know the ones he gave numerous explanations for at the civil trial (his cut himself on his cellphone, his son did it to him, he wasn't sure, etc.). But I won't go on, if you've looked at even a fourth of the evidence and can't use simple logic to see the man's guilt than that's your problem.

181 posted on 12/05/2001 11:05:29 AM PST by Catphish
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To: hobbes1
No it's not. Item #1 his hand was cut when he came back from Chicago. Item #2 there's no evidence that either victim was armed so unless they scratched him they had no way of inflicting damage. Item #3 the lack of evidence of major struggle (no skin under the fingernails, we'll pretend for this one that OJ is innocent) again leans towards the killer being known to the victims (straight out of the FBI hand book, stranger killers almost always get scratched up if they use knives or close in (shooters almost never get hurt, gee go figure), lover killers usually walk away unharmed, acquaintance killings can go either way). #4 most of the wounds were delivered after the victims were dead, unconscious or losing consciousness do to shock and bloodloss, at that point the killer was just hacking up meat.

The evidence at the scene shows that one person who was known to the victims and probably quite close to at least one came up, something ensued that caused Ron to assume a defensive posture, but he was incapacitated before being able to put up a serious struggle. The killer then moved onto Nicole, proceeded to do a frenzied mutilation of Nicole, which is usually and indication of emotional bond (spousal killing almost always include significant pre and post mortem high intensity mutilation of the face, kneck and shoulder areas). At some point it looks like Ron moved around some and the killer hit him a few more times to make sure he was dead, but the primary attention was focused on Nicole.

That's why I'll say over and over that regardless of what Furhman might or might not have done OJ has to be the number 1 suspect and the likelyhood of it being someone else is negligable at best. The evidence that's pretty much impossible to fake (it would take a long time alone with the bodies to fake, and that time would have to be taken before the photographer showed up, and not have left scrapes under their fingernails) says the killer was at one time emotionally close enough to Nicole to have gone for serious frenzied mutiliation. And was known well enough by both of them that even though they were clearly not attacked from hiding or surprise (ie they knew the killer was there) they still were not expecting an attack until it was far too late.

182 posted on 12/05/2001 11:11:07 AM PST by discostu
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To: Catphish
OJ. Did have an alibi. At 11 pm. that is why the time of death was obfuscated,( Coroner not called for 10 1/2 Hours...at a high profile double murder!)

She died AFTER 11PM.

183 posted on 12/05/2001 11:13:36 AM PST by hobbes1
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To: discostu
something ensued that caused Ron to assume a defensive posture, but he was incapacitated before being able to put up a serious struggle

Sorry discostu, if you actually read thru that whole link you would see that your argument falls on that Very point. RG Struggled mightily, and for some time.

184 posted on 12/05/2001 11:15:15 AM PST by hobbes1
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To: f.Christian
But you cant detail evidence, or facts...just name calling.

Are you sure you're not here on a DU field trip?

185 posted on 12/05/2001 11:16:18 AM PST by hobbes1
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To: FreeTally
To sum up what he claims, Nicole was involved in some kind of drug ring

Also explains her argument on the phone with Resnick, and Resnick going into hiding AFTER OJ WAS IN JAIL....

186 posted on 12/05/2001 11:18:18 AM PST by hobbes1
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To: hobbes1
Are you sure you're not here on a DU field trip?

LSD trip---comic strip---YOU!?

187 posted on 12/05/2001 11:20:44 AM PST by f.Christian
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To: codebreaker
If the painter is guilty, he knows where the knife is.
188 posted on 12/05/2001 11:25:11 AM PST by razorback-bert
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To: hobbes1
I'd like to mention something that seems to escape most people: Orenthal had just wrapped up a Movie that was filmed in Mexico, where he played a Special Forces or some type of military person,then this crime occurred,and then that movie was shelved.That is one hell of a coincidence,for your wife to become slashed after extensive use of weapons on a movie set.The Op's guy for the movie,was interviewed on E.T. (they were doing some special)prior to these crimes occurring and I didn't hear anything else except that one interview.It's just another 1 of those things that occurred and got ignored by the D.A.s' office.
190 posted on 12/05/2001 11:34:29 AM PST by Pagey
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To: hobbes1
Also explains her argument on the phone with Resnick, and Resnick going into hiding AFTER OJ WAS IN JAIL....

Yup!

Also, I attempted to find the website I told you about. The URL changed. Its www.shoutit.net/~bigred/cn.html Im not good at posting links, sorry. Go to "better of CR", and its under "Secrets of the L.A. Riots(part4)". Its all unsubstantiated, but no more far fetched than what you have to believe to think OJ did it.

There is WAY more to this than we will ever know. I think OJ knows why she was killed and who did it, and probably knows all about what whe was involved in, because he probably was too(strange that this new investigation in Florida is over drugs, but the "lynch OJ" crowd likes to laugh at the Nicole-Faye Resnic drug connection). He was framed for convenience sake, and to keep him from possibly blabbing.

191 posted on 12/05/2001 11:36:07 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: hobbes1
Sorry hos but reread it. And other evidence. Since this is just photographic there won't be anything about skin under the finger nails one way or the other so you'll have to hit other places (I'd go with Bugliosi's and Douglas' books, but you won't like them, they say OJ is a cold blooded murdering POS). Ron was stabbed a lot but there is no indication he put up more than a token struggle. This is to be expected since at least 3 of the wounds were more than likely fatal all by themselves. The amount of blood loss and shock that stems from some of these wounds is significant and very quickly incapacitating. For the most part the defensive wound Ron took were of the "covering" nature (like he grabbed injured parts of himself and the assailant stabbed through his arms and hands getting to torso for further wounds).

Struggles for survival when attacked hand to hand will almost always go to grappling. And unless the victim is wearing gloves tissue and fiber will get stuck under their fingernails (also the attackers nails will likely scrape you, often leaving nail fragments). If you've ever tickled/wrestled with an SO you know about this phenomenon, happens even when you're not fighting for your very life, happens a lot when you are. Rons wounds indicate that he was wary of his attacker but was not fully afraid of his attacker. This means he was hit by somebody who was known to him enough for Ron to trust them at least some what, but more importantly it means that Ron was aware the person was there. At that point it's very clear that it was a blitz overkill attack. Ron was hit hard, fast and often. By the time he realized he need to defend himself he'd been gashed open far enough that it was impossible to do so.

But even if I give you all that. There's still the post attack behavior. Why did OJ try to leave the country with a fake ID, disguise and a bunch of money? Why has he never expressed sorrow at her loss? Why, when cornered, does he refer to her as a bitch and a slut, yet claim he still loves her to this day? Why did his search for the real killers start on the golf course?

192 posted on 12/05/2001 11:38:53 AM PST by discostu
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To: FreeTally
Actually, I cant get the link to respond....
193 posted on 12/05/2001 11:39:17 AM PST by hobbes1
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To: codebreaker
One of my dearest friends was an LA lawyer who'd went to school with Johnny Cochran. It seems that quite a few of the lawyers my friend knew, in his group, including himself believe that O.J. didn't kill Nicole and Ron but that he knew who did and possibly could have been covering for someone.
194 posted on 12/05/2001 11:41:46 AM PST by chantal7
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To: discostu
In OJ's tell all book---to prove his innocence--love for Nicole, he said..."HE WOULD DO ANYTHING"---scary!
195 posted on 12/05/2001 11:43:25 AM PST by f.Christian
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To: Rodney King
Was Rivero banned or something?
196 posted on 12/05/2001 11:48:11 AM PST by Agamemnon
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To: discostu
Now I'm confused.

Goldman, in a literal fight for his life dosent manage to lay a hand on OJ.

Somehow, this dosent add up.

I can assure you, I would have certainly managed to get at least a few licks in, no matter what the circumstances.

I dont pretend to know if the "house painter" did it or not but any fair investigation would lead anyone to question the facts of the case as put forth by the LAPD.

Too many inconsistancies and very improboable chain of events to simply say "OJ did it".

IMHO anyway.

knews hound

197 posted on 12/05/2001 11:50:09 AM PST by knews_hound
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To: FreeTally
I'm not laughing at their drug connection. I'm laughing that anybody would think drug dealers kill like that. Check the FBI crime classification books. This killing is a straight forward, whoever killed Nicole had at least slept with her, and had probably been in a long term relationship with her. And with all the whacky crap OJ did before the killing (the beatings when they were married, spying on her, threatening to kill her if she slept with another man) and all the subterfuge after to think it was somebody else would be silly.

And, of course, now you throw in an even sillier idea. That OJ knew who did it but he never talked. According to you these people were trying to frame him for murder, a capital crime, yet he wouldn't take the stand and blab it out. Oh sure, they probably threatened his kids or something, but instead of taking the chance of getting these guys off the street with 5 minutes of testimony in court he'd rather have that threat hanging over his kids lives forever. And here's a great idea: drug dealers just killed my ex-wife and might try me next, I think I'll go hide in Mexico, yeah no drug dealers down there. Why not head to Canada when he was in Chicago?

See that's the basic problem with saying anybody but OJ did it. The behavior before the murder was classic obsessive violent potential killer behavior. The killing were done in a way that almost always indicates a long term emotional relationship between killer and victim. The behavior since the murder has continued to be evasive and suspicious. No either OJ is the unluckiest SOB this planet has ever seen, to act like such a nutjob potential murderer and then somebody else kills his ex-wife, and the stupidest to continue to act like a murdered for all these years; or he did it.

198 posted on 12/05/2001 11:51:22 AM PST by discostu
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To: discostu
Help OJ find the real killer
199 posted on 12/05/2001 12:00:27 PM PST by HarryDunne
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To: hobbes1
Sorry, I typed it wrong. Its www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html

If you cant get that to work(and it should), then if you use yahoo, and serach for "conspiracy nation", it will be the first link that comes up.

200 posted on 12/05/2001 12:03:25 PM PST by FreeTally
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