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29 posted on 12/04/2001 8:39:43 AM PST by A.J.Armitage
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Well, Mr. Armitage. Another well written essay. Although I might find reason to cheer Bush, you've made my head begin to spin in another direction.

Keep up the good work. In times of "hoo-rah" we still need to consider carefully the actions of our leaders.

30 posted on 12/04/2001 8:52:35 AM PST by RedWing9
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As always the devil will be in the details. the difference between Ashcroft and Reno is that Reno would have arrested a whole bunch of what she refers to as "Right Wingers." Ashcroft has arrested a number of foreign nationals. I note that I would be much more comfortable had Congress used the word war in its resolution authorizing force and I would hope that these measures will expire soon. I stand very much with Bob barr's position on thsi.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

31 posted on 12/04/2001 9:34:00 AM PST by harpseal
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Nicely done!

Wake up Republicrats.

32 posted on 12/04/2001 9:46:09 AM PST by UnBlinkingEye
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That article describes X42 to a tee. Thanks for the bump.
34 posted on 12/04/2001 10:14:29 AM PST by E.G.C.
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Zing! That's telling 'em.

Of course the JBT fans won't let you get away with this. You've denigrated their deity.

43 posted on 12/04/2001 11:28:27 AM PST by alpowolf
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ping with agreement
47 posted on 12/04/2001 11:52:25 AM PST by RnMomof7
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"He might have gone further, letting federal law enforcement track what content a person accesses over the internet, and, in his boundless desire to have unlimited authority over ordinary people, he might have required a lower standard of proof than probable cause. Maybe the only requirement would be that it's relevant to an investigation."

In the 1960's, a federal agency known as DARPANET created the original internet connection backbone with public taxpayer funds. As universities and later corporations later clamored for access to this system, contracts were signed (voluntarily) which continued to treat data traffic on this backbone as open, public information (traffic originating from an ISP that is connected to one gateway isn't prohibited from view by the other gateways or backbone repeaters - and in fact the very nature of reading the address that is encoded on each TC/PIP "packet" REQUIRES that every piece of data on the internet be reviewed by every piece of equipment which the data passes over/through). Today, this internet backbone connects all internet gateways (ISP's connect to the gateways).

Thus, learned people consider internet data traffic to be public information. The situation of Carnivore is therefor similar to police officers watching public traffic on freeways, except that Internet traffic can be encrypted by those who desire privacy to prevent searches with far better accuracy than can be done with cars.

Of course, there will always be the Chicken-Littles of the world crying that the sky is falling on the bill of rights whenever a police officer watches traffic on either an interstate freeway or an internet information super-hiway...

61 posted on 12/04/2001 3:17:11 PM PST by Southack
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