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"IT" Revealed - (Ginger)
TIME.Com ^ | 12/2/2001 | JOHN HEILEMANN

Posted on 12/02/2001 6:56:41 PM PST by Enlightiator

The Time article:

"Reinventing the Wheel"

The "flash" view.


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To: Enlightiator
It needs a comfortable seat and be able to go 70 mph faster,and be able to store groceries too.

This is not a vehicle for a large population of aging baby boomers.

221 posted on 12/03/2001 4:52:11 AM PST by Musketeer
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To: semper_libertas
How do you lock it up?

In lockers that will be provided? Special "bike-rack-like" setups? Removal of part of it that will make it impossible for others to use?

I'm not an inventor, but I think someone could make good money designing an answer to the question you pose.

222 posted on 12/03/2001 4:53:39 AM PST by syriacus
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To: semper_libertas
How do you lock it up? It looks light enough for 1-2 teenage kids to grab and run with.

The logistics involved in chaining it to a parking meter can't be that great.

223 posted on 12/03/2001 4:56:13 AM PST by Shenandoah
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To: Valin
Three grand? I wish him a lot of luck, he's going to need it.

Kamen's dealers could offer 0% down loans like auto-dealers are now.

224 posted on 12/03/2001 4:58:30 AM PST by syriacus
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To: All
Basically, this fellow took an electric scooter, added a bunch of fancy electronic gizmos and rearraged the wheels to be side by side, rather than front and back. It is still the same...a small, wheeled vehicle that you stand on to ride short distances. Functionally, it is revolutionary, and I am intrigued. Practically, there are no new capabilities, other than perhaps being able to stop without putting one foot on the ground, or being able to traverse rougher terrain. But, I've never been averse to walking...

What happened to the revolutionary engine that was supposed to propel the thing? I heard it was some kind of pollution free cutting edge type of powerplant. Now, it appears to have simple electric motors.

Can't help but be impressed, however. I'm sure its an odd feeling to be balancing on something that clearly shouldn't be standing upright. I also can't help but be worried if the rider hits an obstacle such as a parking barrier or a curb. Instant nose job. Or, if the gyros fail while moving at top speed. Yikes!

All that aside, I think its nifty. I think also, because there aren't any real new capabilities for the price, that this thing is doomed to failure. An electric scooter will do the same thing, for under $500.

Plus, the thing looks like one of those old-timey lawn mowers. What self respecting person would want to be seen on that?

225 posted on 12/03/2001 4:58:57 AM PST by FLAMING DEATH
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To: Shenandoah
The logistics involved in chaining it to a parking meter can't be that great.

Good idea. Perhaps receipts from parking meters could be used to help fund the renovations necessary to make an IT-friendly environment.

A lot of things will change. Insurance companies are probably thinking up ways to make money off selling IT-insurance right now. I wonder if oil companies will find a way to make money off IT?

226 posted on 12/03/2001 5:03:14 AM PST by syriacus
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To: xm177e2
They gotta lick the "where will they put them" problem--they're a bit bulkier and heavier than Razors Scooters--and then I guarantee they will be all over college campuses. You don't know parking problems at all unless you've been to a university like mine.
227 posted on 12/03/2001 5:03:47 AM PST by ChemistCat
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To: All
Man all of you are right! This will go down as one of the great follies of the world. Hey check this out. About 100 years ago there was this Detroit jerk water that created a..(Get this! Snicker sincker) A HORSELESS CARRIAGE! BWWWAHHH! This guy created a buggy that couldn't go as fast as a horse, (only about 10 miles an hour)polluted alot and noisy as hell and couldn't pull anything like a wagon!! Incredible! Everyone said it would fail, and it did! Don't you guys all remember? Who would be dumb enough to invest in this?


228 posted on 12/03/2001 5:04:48 AM PST by Bommer
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To: FLAMING DEATH
What self respecting person would want to be seen on that?

Singles who want to attract other young people? Sort of a variation on the walking-your-dog-to-meet-people ploy. Should go over big among young, single Wall Street types who live in NYC.

230 posted on 12/03/2001 5:07:41 AM PST by syriacus
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To: Shenandoah
And what about THEFT?

A caller to Drudge Radio talked about "Segway"-jacking, like getting mugged for your $100 sneakers. There are 3000 good reasons to steal one.

231 posted on 12/03/2001 5:07:46 AM PST by RonDog
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To: ChemistCat
And what about the social problems that will arise? Chapters of IT's Angels will spring up across the country....drunken IT drivers....IT daredevils.....
232 posted on 12/03/2001 5:08:35 AM PST by Shenandoah
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To: FLAMING DEATH
I see a lack of vision here....I imagine:

Cross-country IT trekkers.
Trans-continental IT races.
IT Hell's Angels (you must be 70 or older).
IT performing bears
IT ballet
IT tag

and so many others...

233 posted on 12/03/2001 5:09:43 AM PST by ZeitgeistSurfer
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To: 2Trievers
"The U.S. Postal Service, General Electric and National Parks Service will be the first customers to purchase them, buying 80-pound heavy-duty models for $8,000 apiece"

No suprise in that price, given the thousand dollar toilet seats and such.

234 posted on 12/03/2001 5:09:57 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Oh wait. With Dems in the House, they will certainly get federal funding with our tax dollars.

It's already happened. Fox says the U.S. Postal Service will be the first customer.

235 posted on 12/03/2001 5:10:19 AM PST by BlessedBeGod
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Certainly Mr. Kamen cannot expect to get a decent return on his investment by marketing IT to the remainder.

I am very familiar with those little powered wheelchairs of the 'little rascal' type. My late mother who eventually died from her emphysema used one, but she was in despair because she couldn't go anyplace that a four wheeled vehicle couldn't go, and would have loved one of these gadgets.

In Florida virtually all supermarkets have a number of these powered carts, and there are dozens at Walmarts. Anybody who uses one of these can walk a few steps, or they wouldn't be able to get into the stores. All of these people would be potential customers of these things. If they are disabled, or past 65 I expect that Medicare will pay for them, just as they pay for the little rascals, so the price tag of $3000 will not be so important.

236 posted on 12/03/2001 5:10:41 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: semper_libertas
How many parking meters are outside a building with 5,000+ employees? If special lock-up spaces were provided, they would have to be in a parking lot.

There may be more vacant auto-parking spaces if even a few people switch to these. Five auto spaces could hold a lot of ITs.

Who wants to drive one of these up the parking structure ramps?

Parking structures have elevators. People could park their ITs on lower levels.

237 posted on 12/03/2001 5:12:55 AM PST by syriacus
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To: Bommer
A more appropriate marketing metaphor would be the "Pet Rock" - cute, but useless.
238 posted on 12/03/2001 5:13:21 AM PST by RonDog
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To: Glenn
"This thing would save me an hour a day"

5 hours/week, 50 weeks a year at $25.00/hr = $6,250/year.

I can see progressive corporations being interested in using these things.

239 posted on 12/03/2001 5:13:53 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Michael_S
Unless it is cold, or raining, or snowing, or windy etc.

In what way is walking better in these conditions?

240 posted on 12/03/2001 5:13:55 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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