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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Howlin
Say what?? You accused Clarity of breech [sic] of attorney-client privilege above. Now you're changing your tune? LOL If things are getting too complicated, I saw lots of more simple-minded threads floating around this morning.

BTW, it's breach. Did you say you were a court reporter or some such thing? Pleeeeease correct me if I'm wrong. LOL

2,922 posted on 12/02/2001 10:26:37 AM PST by aligyrl-02
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To: monkeyshine

2,923 posted on 12/02/2001 10:30:52 AM PST by John Robinson
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To: Sunshine Patriot
Some people speak of an open forum, where anybody can post a message about any subject they want, as long as they abide by a few simple rules (obscenities, spamming, etc.) Well gee, that's just dandy--but that isn't FR.

It used to be FR, except that posts had to be more or less political. It worked darned well, too.

Here at FR we limit the discussion to topics that are important to us, and we even limit the opinions to the opinions that we hold dear.

We who? Did you buy the place?

Think that's fascist? Don't like living under the 24/7 watchful eye of the moderators? Well then shove off, sweetie, because that's what we got here and we like it.

You know, in the kind of heavily moderated forum of which you speak, telling somebody to shove off for so little cause would undoubtedly be a banning offense. Funny you should advocate something that clearly even you don't wish to abide by. Or are you a Sacred Moderator yourself?

2,924 posted on 12/02/2001 10:31:16 AM PST by Ratatoskr
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To: aligyrl-02
I did no such thing. I said good to see YOU admit your part in it. I would suspect, even if some of it were true -- which I doubt, you've conveniently distorted what was said to suit your own agenda. Can you say OUT OF CONTEXT?

You're right, it is BREACH; I care so little about responding to you, I didn't even bother to proofread.

Now, answer MY question.

2,925 posted on 12/02/2001 10:31:38 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Z2
Howdy LOTF,

Where was the thread titled "FRucker Crimes" posted? Do you still have a link? And would you post it if you do. Thanks.

2,926 posted on 12/02/2001 10:42:08 AM PST by John Robinson
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To: Howlin
This thread isn't about me, sweetie. It's about FR.

If you want to stray off-topic, there's a thread ready and waiting for you on AFWA.

2,927 posted on 12/02/2001 10:42:24 AM PST by aligyrl-02
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2,928 posted on 12/02/2001 10:43:12 AM PST by Howlin
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To: John Robinson
Hey John!

You know, I don't know if that thread's still around or not. If memory serves me correctly, I believe it was on TTC. Correct me if I'm wrong.

You may or may not know that a couple of the proprietors over there deleted a bunch of threads the other day. Last I heard, they were waiting for EZboard to restore what got nuked.

If the thread was on AFWAA it's still there, because I haven't deleted anything. You're welcome to look for it, but I honestly believe that was pre-AFWAA.

BTW, did you save it in your database? That might be the quickest way to run it down.

2,929 posted on 12/02/2001 10:50:11 AM PST by Z2
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To: Z2
I have no idea. I doubt that a lawyer would disclose confidential client information and I doubt Brian would join in any games to defame me or FR. I have no idea where the email message came from. I would hope that no more of our communications get posted. I will be asking our new lawyer to contact Brian on Monday to see if he knows anything about this. Thanks
2,930 posted on 12/02/2001 10:53:28 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Z2
deleted a bunch of threads the other day
Eschoir might crow, "expoliation of evidence" but I do understand that is beyond your control.

BTW, did you save it in your database?

I'm sure you have your wires crossed; I never had a database of TTC. Wish I had saved at least some of those gems, though.

2,931 posted on 12/02/2001 10:54:20 AM PST by John Robinson
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To: TLBSHOW
Wow! This thread is still going! LOL!
2,932 posted on 12/02/2001 10:54:22 AM PST by firewalk
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To: Bryan
Yes, they are indeed having a field day. They think they've got something and they're tearing at it like a pack of wild dogs. Well, we'll see how it all unfolds eventually. Thanks, Jim
2,933 posted on 12/02/2001 10:59:54 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: aligyrl-02
Why should we go over to AFWAA, register and post when we're already here?
2,936 posted on 12/02/2001 11:04:24 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: Sunshine Patriot
Nonsense. FR has always been quick to boot people who were out of line.

Nonsense. Your memory is faulty.

2,937 posted on 12/02/2001 11:08:30 AM PST by Ratatoskr
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To: Ratatoskr
You know, in the kind of heavily moderated forum of which you speak, telling somebody to shove off for so little cause would undoubtedly be a banning offense.

LOL. Oh, undoubtedly . . GOOD POINT!

You guys . .

THE BLOOD OF TYRANTS MUST BE CRUSHED!

2,938 posted on 12/02/2001 11:09:49 AM PST by alcuin
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To: John Robinson
Wish I had saved at least some of those gems, though.

Yeah, there were some classics over there. Hopefully they'll get it restored. Unfortunately, the restore date is supposed to be 11-19, I believe. HH deleted a LOT of stuff before that, so I have no idea about the probability of recovering the thread in question.

2,939 posted on 12/02/2001 11:10:40 AM PST by Z2
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To: mountaineer
Some people, with their short attention spans, keep trying to change the subject of this thread. I created a thread at AFWA where they can ask their questions regarding anything anti-freeper, so we can stay on topic, but they keep forgetting, so I keep reminding. LOL
2,940 posted on 12/02/2001 11:11:20 AM PST by aligyrl-02
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