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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Announcements; Breaking News
KEYWORDS: bushbabeslist; enviralists; hughhewitt; jimroblist; opuslist; usocanteen; zionist
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To: Lazamataz
joeblow@stateagency.sc.GOV

Laz, quit posting my email address as a sample.

1,501 posted on 11/29/2001 10:25:43 AM PST by francisandbeans
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To: Lazamataz
I remember that well. In the manner of crap through a goose, that loser was off the government gravy train in search of gainful employment within a few days. He/she/it just FReepmailed me to tell me he/she/it is now on the *federal* teat.
1,502 posted on 11/29/2001 10:26:06 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: fallclassicus
Nice try eschoir!
1,503 posted on 11/29/2001 10:26:38 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TKEman
I wasn't talking about copyright law in any form or its value.
1,504 posted on 11/29/2001 10:27:33 AM PST by DB
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, don't give up, never give up !!
You and Free Republic make a big difference !!
1,505 posted on 11/29/2001 10:29:46 AM PST by blackie
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To: tacticalogic
Try "maladroit."
1,506 posted on 11/29/2001 10:30:00 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: Jim Robinson
If you originate and run a successful website that people enjoy visiting repeatedly and they enjoy it so much that they give you money to keep it going and then if that eventually results in you making tons of money - more power to you!

That's the American Dream!

1,507 posted on 11/29/2001 10:30:36 AM PST by mostlyundecided
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To: Ratatoskr
I like cheese. I really, REALLY like cheese!
1,508 posted on 11/29/2001 10:30:42 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: dixie sass; Jim Robinson
I don't hink I have to tell you how I feel about this!

Hang in there Jim and I promise to continue doing EVERYTHING I can to help!

"A people may want a free government, but if, from insolence, or carelessness, or cowardice, or want of public spirit, they are unequal to the exertions necessary for preserving it; if they will not fight for it when it is directly attacked; if they can be deluded by the artifices used to cheat them out of it; if by monetary discouragement or temporary panic, or a fit of enthusiasm for an individual they can be be induced to lay their liberties at the feet of even a great man, or trust him with powers which enable him to subvert their institutions; in all of these cases they are more or less unfit for liberty; and though it may be for their good to have had it even for a short time, they are unlikely to long enjoy it."

John Stuart Mill Essay on Representative Government

1,509 posted on 11/29/2001 10:30:58 AM PST by Bigun
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To: Jim Robinson
Keep it the way it is, as long as you can. I'll send you some cash to help. Thank you Jim and thanks to the rest of the crew who make the daily effort to keep FR up and running. FReegards, NP
1,510 posted on 11/29/2001 10:31:17 AM PST by Navy Patriot
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To: tekman; All
From: TKEman (TODDFREELAND) 1:15 pm To: TTC_REP (27 of 35) 640.27 in reply to 640.26

Yes, you are correct. I replied to all posts to me on the thread, directing them here.
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tekman wants us to freep their scumbag site but GOOD
now lets freep these rats but GOOD...redrock is over there now freeping em but we need all that can spare the time.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/main.asp?webtag=frureform&nav=messages&msg=633.1

1,511 posted on 11/29/2001 10:34:25 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: elfman2
Several problems:

1. Earnings of 501(c) organizations can't inure to the benefit of individual shareholders.

2. 501(c) organizations can't actively engage in politics and influencing legislation.

3. Public disclosure requirements and accountability.

Just to name a few of the more obvious problems. Of course, some of these problems might exist as a matter of law, regardless of 501(c) status, by accepting donations and holding one's self out as a non-profit or charity.

1,512 posted on 11/29/2001 10:36:35 AM PST by Z2
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To: Jim Robinson
Just my opinion: I've donated, and I did so as a consumer of what I consider to be a fantastic entertainment site.

I gave you the money to do with what you want. You could spend it on a wild, raunchy weekend in Vegas, if you wish. That's up to you.

I give what I feel I am willing to pay for this 'service'. I don't consider this a 'charity', in any way.

Thank you for your time and energy. I like what another person said before -- you're the 'Rush Limbaugh' of the internet. You've truly taken the message board to a new level.

1,513 posted on 11/29/2001 10:38:40 AM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Arator
I don't take kindly to bullying, abusive cult-like intimidation tactics, and just plain tyranny from any quarter.

afSS Translation:

If I can't run the show, I'm gonna blow

Yep, you blow. Now, you lying little twerp. You had your own site. It is still a home for bigots and has spawned alternate sites in favor or opposed to your peculiar bigotry. You lied on your own site and now you think you have the right to call everyone else a liar? You're useless...but irrelevant, so no harm no foul. I say keep you around with Hairy and the TauKappaEpsilon freak and I'll be able to go easy on Kevin.

1,514 posted on 11/29/2001 10:38:55 AM PST by harrowup
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To: fallclassicus
Ahh,yes. I vaguely remember you. Aren't you the weasel who posted either his e-mail address or a link to his e-mail address,and then whined when he got fired for conducting political activites on a gooberment system during work hours when he was SUPPOSED to be actually working? Didn't you allegedly work for the Georgia highway dept? Or at least draw a check from them? Your mom must be very proud,and I'm sure she brags to all her tricks about you.
1,515 posted on 11/29/2001 10:40:03 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; Billie; Sabertooth; Jim Robinson
Thank You All for the ping! If it wasn't for Free Republic, I would never have had the opportunity to attend an Inaugural Ball--that was great! Protesting and attending rally's was something I never did... until Free Republic, went out there with the best of folks and spoke my voice for what is right. I have been politically enlightened, thanks to Free Republic. Will be sending in a donation. My heartfelt thanks Jim for this wonderful site.
FREE REPUBLIC ROCKS!!!
1,516 posted on 11/29/2001 10:43:16 AM PST by deadhead
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To: Hugh Akston
Spoken like a true liberal.

He's not a "liberal",and there is nothing the slightest bit liberal about him. He is a whiney leftist.

1,517 posted on 11/29/2001 10:44:16 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: Cyber Liberty
Try "maladroit."

Doesn't seem to fit. Maladroit would mean clumsy or inelegant.

Malsentient would mean able to think and reason, but unable to do so correctly.

1,518 posted on 11/29/2001 10:45:52 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: sneakypete
I stand corrected. Good point.
1,519 posted on 11/29/2001 10:46:29 AM PST by Hugh Akston
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To: Cyber Liberty
remember that well. In the manner of crap through a goose, that loser was off the government gravy train in search of gainful employment within a few days. He/she/it just FReepmailed me to tell me he/she/it is now on the *federal* teat.

I would hope he (it is a he) would be so kind as to EMAIL you instead of FREEPMAIL you, so that the person in question might be coaxed to avoid the use of federal equipment and time.

Unless, of course, this is merely Eschoir violating an injunction......

1,520 posted on 11/29/2001 10:46:56 AM PST by Lazamataz
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