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Camp for Nude Witches Fights Closing
Reuters ^ | 11-28-2001

Posted on 11/28/2001 5:56:58 AM PST by Cagey

LEAVENWORTH, Kan. (Reuters) - A Kansas retreat that caters to witches and pagan rituals is fighting for survival amid community talk that naked witches may be weaving magical spells in the moonlight.

The owners of the Gaea Retreat Center, a 168-acre camp west of Kansas City that is home to such annual events as the Gaea Goddess Gathering and a "Heartland Pagan Spiritual event" filed suit on Monday in Leavenworth County District Court after county commissioners effectively put the retreat out of business by denying it a renewal of its land use permit.

"They say they're afraid of us, what we do here, the sound of drums. ... They don't know how lucky they are to have us as their neighbors," caretaker Wanda Roths said. "We're very quiet, very peaceful. There has never been any trouble out here."

The Leavenworth County commissioners denied the renewal for the permit, issued six years ago, in late October after a community petition raised accusations that the retreat fostered public nudity, pedophilia, and illegal drug and alcohol use. Neighbors also expressed concern about devil worship.

The suit claims the commissioners' denial is illegal and unconstitutional, as well as violating laws protecting freedom of religious expression and practice.

Lawyers for the county declined to comment.

The retreat denies any illegal activity, and county officials say there is no evidence of any.

Roths said there are "clothing optional" locations on the retreat grounds, and witches, Wiccans and other pagans do sometimes hold nighttime meetings around bonfires. But the retreat at times also attracts more traditional religious followers, she said.

Gaea, which means "Mother Earth," offers sanctuary to a variety of alternative religions and lifestyles, according to Roths. "We accept anybody," she said.

Before its current incarnation, the sprawling site was a church camp.


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To: The Green Goblin
Nice toast, but in fairness, that information would've been useful oh, about 330 posts ago.
341 posted on 11/28/2001 12:54:48 PM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: dpwiener
That's pretty much the way 5th and 6th grade teachers in our government babysitting churches/ public schools define religion. Thanks for the reminder of 12 yearold religious philosophy.
342 posted on 11/28/2001 12:55:51 PM PST by biblewonk
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To: GW in Ohio
"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, Aug. 10, 1787 Yep sounds reasonable to me..Jakester
343 posted on 11/28/2001 12:57:05 PM PST by jakester
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Why is it so difficult for you to keep your nose out of other peoples' business?

OK who said it was clichet time? I thought we were acually trying to think up our own sentences here.

344 posted on 11/28/2001 12:57:07 PM PST by biblewonk
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To: rickmoe
Where do I put my clothes and "where's all da white women?".
346 posted on 11/28/2001 12:59:17 PM PST by biblewonk
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To: laotzu
Any second now the libertarians will log in, with something like...

So you think that liberals do not exist that would like to shut down christian chruches? Make it easy for them by attacking 2,000 odd people and do not be suprised when they use those laws against you.
347 posted on 11/28/2001 1:03:10 PM PST by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: EricOKC
BTW, i said golden rat intentionally

I know you did...(clang!!!!)........;)

348 posted on 11/28/2001 1:04:30 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Nice toast, but in fairness, that information would've been useful oh, about 330 posts ago.

I generally try to keep my personal experiences out of arguments, because it is certainly possible to argue on principle in cases where you have no personal involvement with the subject. in this case, I do happen to have personal involvement, but that only serves to abolish the 'we don't know what's happening out there' argument.

The pedophilia persecution is always merely 'suggested" and 'implied". "We really don't know what's going on out there, but we think that they be molesting children..."

This is religious persecution, pure and simple

349 posted on 11/28/2001 1:05:00 PM PST by The Green Goblin
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To: The Green Goblin
Did it really take you 338 posts to 'come out of the broom closet'?

If you are that pro pagan then it certainly explains your defensiveness now doesn't it?

So you will say that pagans are the nicest and most normal people on the earth and they wouldn't harm a fly. All they do is love mother earth and nature and celebrate life and fertility and other natural/earthbased things.

350 posted on 11/28/2001 1:06:50 PM PST by biblewonk
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To: EricOKC
Thanks!

351 posted on 11/28/2001 1:07:00 PM PST by The Green Goblin
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To: EricOKC
You may believe whatever you damn well please - just dont persecute me for believing differently.

Here we go..the main thrust.........any criticism directed at a liberal ideology automatically must be interpreted as persecution.........it's really a nice place to debate from, isn't it?

352 posted on 11/28/2001 1:09:37 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: The Green Goblin
Yes, keep fighting.
353 posted on 11/28/2001 1:10:25 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
So you think that liberals do not exist...

What!?!!

I am quite ready to engage in debate. However; I cannot grasp what you are talking about. Please clarify.

Thanks

354 posted on 11/28/2001 1:10:26 PM PST by laotzu
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To: biblewonk
Persoanlly, I'm an atheist, but I'm not going to sit around and let you accuse my wife's religion of promoting pedophilia.

355 posted on 11/28/2001 1:10:57 PM PST by The Green Goblin
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To: EricOKC
I will call you a liberal.......

but are quite a bit more conservative than most.

In the USA of today, that doesn't mean much.

358 posted on 11/28/2001 1:19:06 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: Cagey
So the nudity aspect of this story wasn't what attracted you to it? Nudity, with its accompanying prurience? Or was it the occult perspective that made it titillating? I'm just trying to understand what makes this worthy of Free Republic, and not the National Enquirer.
359 posted on 11/28/2001 1:22:15 PM PST by IronJack
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