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Councilman burned up by smoking in line
The Orange County Register ^ | November 27, 2001 | VALERIA GODINES

Posted on 11/27/2001 8:44:47 AM PST by Hans Moleman

Edited on 04/14/2004 10:04:52 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

GARDEN GROVE -- Mark Rosen was fuming after waiting in line for the Harry Potter movie, but he wasn't angry about the long wait.

It was the smokers puffing away around children that upset the Garden Grove councilman. Rosen plans to propose a local law at tonight's council meeting that would ban smoking in movie lines, parks and fast-food playgrounds.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: pufflist
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To: Focault's Pendulum
ROFLMAO!!!!!
101 posted on 11/27/2001 12:56:07 PM PST by ReaganGirl
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To: Hans Moleman
"...this fellow wants to ban smoking period."

No he doesn't. Yes, he's a smoking Nazi, but he's also a money grubbing political hack who is more addicted to tobacco taxes than a 3-pack a day smoker is to nicotine.

102 posted on 11/27/2001 12:57:35 PM PST by Ditto
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To: Ditto
Those taxes are the reason I quit smoking. When I started smoking I was paying about 35 cents a pack. Today they are over 3 bucks a pack, most of the increase due to taxes, and I'm just not going to pay it. I still enjoy the occasional cigar though.
103 posted on 11/27/2001 1:02:58 PM PST by aomagrat
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To: HarryDunne
Typical smoker, thinks he makes up all the rules.

Typical anti-smoker control freak who expects his statements to not be taken out of context and his questions answered directly - but sees no need to extend the same courtesy to those who disagree.

104 posted on 11/27/2001 1:10:05 PM PST by Gabz
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To: Mark
Thanks for posting that.

The nasty anti-smoker that uses that reagrding smokers is just as evil as the Nazis who originated it.

105 posted on 11/27/2001 1:16:24 PM PST by Gabz
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To: Hans Moleman
I am going to end this ETS S**t for good; "No Smoking Around Idiots," that ought to do it.
106 posted on 11/27/2001 1:17:26 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: AppyPappy
Maybe we should write a letter to the editor of the local paper warning of the effects of second-hand Potter and demanding laws to protect children from it.

LOL!!!! I'll be honest with you - I haven't read any of the books and what little I know about it have come from news stories here and on TV.

107 posted on 11/27/2001 1:19:59 PM PST by Gabz
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To: VRWC_minion
But you should look closer at this event and you will see what I have been telling you is true. Anti's couldn't give a $hit about the health dangers, they just hate the smell of your smoke. All the health issue stuff is just crap so that they can justify having the smoke removed from their noses by the force of law.

That's EXACTLY why I oppose smoking! I don't give a crap about whether or not it's dangerous, I just object to you fouling my air. I wouldn't go around peeling off rank farts in public, why do smokers think nothing of doing virtually the same thing?

My right to swing my fist ends where your nose begins. Same goes for your right to smoke. (And I'm an occasional cigar smoker.)

108 posted on 11/27/2001 1:28:46 PM PST by Aristophanes
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To: 101viking
Typical? What an arrogant statement. The majority of smokers are considerate of others and where they smoke. Maybe 2% or so are rude and obnoxious, and they would be that way whether or not they smoked.

Most smokers are considerate of others? Really? Is that why virtually all of them toss their cigarettes out the windows of their cars rather than putting them out in the ashtray? Ever take a close look at how many millions of cigarette butts line the streets and sidewalks?

That's why I contend that car ashtrays are the most useless invention ever: non-smokers don't need them, and smokers don't use them.

109 posted on 11/27/2001 1:34:35 PM PST by Aristophanes
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To: Aristophanes
"Most smokers are considerate of others? Really? Is that why virtually all of them toss their cigarettes out the windows of their cars rather than putting them out in the ashtray?"

Do you have any statistics to back up your "virtually all" statement? Or are you just making a clouded observation based on your personal dislike for smokers. Without any facts to back it up, your observation is merely propoganda.

111 posted on 11/27/2001 1:44:47 PM PST by 101viking
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To: NAMMARINE
"I say AWAY with all these diseased (ama's statistics not mine)addicts."

Your problem is obvious!

112 posted on 11/27/2001 1:46:34 PM PST by 101viking
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To: 101viking
Well let's do an informal survey then. All of you smokers who've never dropped a butt out your car window, reply to this post.

(Don't forget -- lying's a sin.)

113 posted on 11/27/2001 1:47:08 PM PST by Aristophanes
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To: Aristophanes
"Well let's do an informal survey then. All of you smokers who've never dropped a butt out your car window, reply to this post."

Sure, why not? I have thrown a few butts out on the road in my time. So, since we are being so honest, tell me have you ever littered?

Let's add fast food wrappers, beer bottles, caps, cans, garbage of all types on your survey. Don't forget the disposable diapers, candy wrappers, and gum wrappers as well. By your logic, "virtually anyone" who eats or drinks while driving tosses the garbage out the window.

115 posted on 11/27/2001 1:56:33 PM PST by 101viking
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To: Aristophanes
All of you smokers who've never dropped a butt out your car window, reply to this post.

All you non-smokers who never flicked a booger out a car window, reply to this post.

116 posted on 11/27/2001 1:56:35 PM PST by Ditto
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To: 101viking
I can honestly say I don't ever remember throwing trash from vehicle or in fact littering anywhere. (Surely as a kid I did, but that was too many decades ago to remember.)

So not in memory, I haven't. I consider littering, like smoking and other public rudeness, beneath the dignity of a civilized man. In fact my sons would tell you that wherever I go, I make a point of picking up other people's litter. I ALWAYS leave a place cleaner than when I found it.

But I draw the line at cigarette butts -- they're too disgusting to touch.

Does puking count? I did that once or twice in high school, but that was involuntary.

But thanks for proving my point: smokers are by and large un-civilized jerks who go about fouling other people's air and environment.

117 posted on 11/27/2001 2:12:20 PM PST by Aristophanes
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To: SheLion
Do you really think that back in the 'old days' no one cared if you smoked around them? I'm here to tell you thats not true. Some of us cared a lot, we just couldn't do anything about it. I am so thankful that smokers are in the minority, cause when you were the majority you were a thoughtless bunch. There wouldn't be so many rabid anti smokers now if we hadn't been walked on for so many years.
118 posted on 11/27/2001 2:18:50 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Aristophanes
"But thanks for proving my point: smokers are by and large un-civilized jerks who go about fouling other people's air and environment."

You nico-nazis are all the same, never want to be confused with facts, logic, or reason. There is only one choice in your skewed little minds, and that is that everyone should conform to your way of thinking. Thank God I'm independent minded and have never practiced discrimination or racism. It is an ugly characteristic that lies within those like you who have stumbled on a new group to hate, the "smoker."

119 posted on 11/27/2001 2:21:21 PM PST by 101viking
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To: Hans Moleman
This guy sounds like a Henry Waxman Jr. He's got the same sensitive nostrils too.
120 posted on 11/27/2001 2:24:23 PM PST by VA Advogado
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