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To: 101viking
Typical? What an arrogant statement. The majority of smokers are considerate of others and where they smoke. Maybe 2% or so are rude and obnoxious, and they would be that way whether or not they smoked.

Most smokers are considerate of others? Really? Is that why virtually all of them toss their cigarettes out the windows of their cars rather than putting them out in the ashtray? Ever take a close look at how many millions of cigarette butts line the streets and sidewalks?

That's why I contend that car ashtrays are the most useless invention ever: non-smokers don't need them, and smokers don't use them.

109 posted on 11/27/2001 1:34:35 PM PST by Aristophanes
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To: Aristophanes
"Most smokers are considerate of others? Really? Is that why virtually all of them toss their cigarettes out the windows of their cars rather than putting them out in the ashtray?"

Do you have any statistics to back up your "virtually all" statement? Or are you just making a clouded observation based on your personal dislike for smokers. Without any facts to back it up, your observation is merely propoganda.

111 posted on 11/27/2001 1:44:47 PM PST by 101viking
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To: Aristophanes
That's why I contend that car ashtrays are the most useless invention ever: non-smokers don't need them, and smokers don't use them.

To expound on the anti smoking nazi's agenda, when I bought my Acura TL it did not have an ashtray, only a coin holder. I had to practically call the president of the company to buy an add on. The dealer , salesmen , etc. all said they didn't make one. Did they decide I shouldn't smoke in my car? I will never buy another Acura because of that.

Maybe that's why you see people throwing cigs out the window..........there's NO ASHTRAY

138 posted on 11/27/2001 3:53:45 PM PST by estrogen
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To: Aristophanes
That's why I contend that car ashtrays are the most useless invention ever: non-smokers don't need them, and smokers don't use them.

Gee - I empty the ashtray in my vehicle every time I get in it. Just last week I pulled over to the side of the road and told a friend to go pick up the cigarette that he threw out the window.

You are making broad generalization statements here - just like the typical anti-smoker - you deal in emotionalism not fact.

142 posted on 11/27/2001 4:14:59 PM PST by Gabz
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