Posted on 11/23/2001 6:26:38 AM PST by wwjdn
Edited on 05/07/2004 6:21:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
A sign outside a Wilder church stirred a flurry of controversy this week, causing passersby to complain about anti-Muslim sentiment.
The church
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I am at peace with my God. I will not hate. I don't even hate bin Laden. Hate is an irrational, chaotic emotion. I just want him dead. Like the fly I just splattered on my monitor. I'd pull the trigger myself. He is Evil.
I have nothing to repent for. My concience is clean. No innocent blood will be spilled by either my word or my deed. I fear the good pastor may not be able to say the same. Go preach to the ingnorant. They're down closer to your intellectual level.
Anyone who is upset by this should go look at some of the Islamic literature about the Jews. There was never a more hate filled religion.
The current literature distributed by the Elites in the ArabWorld is incredibly anti-Semitic, you are absolutely correct. The "Islamic church " is currently extremently anti-Christian and anti-Western. They don't stop at that: they have hired the bastards to attack us and killed our friends and neighbors. I cannot even tell you how little sympathy I have for these people.
But these bastards are the Islimic church in the Arab world. This is not Islam as religion, and not even all of Islamic world: our good friends, the Turks, are Muslims who read the same holy books; they are democratic and loyal.
We are at war --- and should fight it without mercy --- with the present-day Islamic church in the Arab World, not the religion.
Every time we stepped on the path of fighing for purity of religion weended up killing each other. Unlike the Arabs, we have learned from our past mistakes and had not had religous wars for centuries.
That is the biggest part of the problem, too many people let others decide how they should think.
Since ancient Greece and Rome, actually. But even more so, since the pagan Germanic tribes introduced to the West the idea of representation.
Looks like, because of my support of Ilbay, their wrath has befallen me too.
That is the biggest part of the problem, too many people let others decide how they should think.
Alexander Hamilton said it, quite succinctly "Those who stand for nothing, fall for anything".
Even if you don't agree with it.
(I know this is a difficult concept, so try to bear with me here. I hate Al Sharpton also, but I deal with it because his idiocy is *sigh* Constitutionally Protected.)
But, isn't the teaching of Christ the basis for this sign and this thread?
I didn't say it was a good idea.. I think the Revrend has choosen the wrong forum for this.
But I am saying that it's protected speech and that the Revrend is basically correct when he says this.
Jews weren't doing any of that in Nazi Germany, either. Look at what happened.
Easy, eacsy, fella. Keep the poweder in that .38 dry.
I am no liberal, and I am not telling you what to think.
But the quote refers to what the pastor did and claims that those in the majority of the community would not support such actions.
RIGHT!! The evil is Wahabism, not Islam itself. Bin Laden is a Wahabist. Hate Wahabism, because it's Wahabist doctrine that bin Laden spews at Christianity. The man is NUTS, don't you see?
I guess I don't understand then why all the Pallies were dancing in the streets and passing out candy to celebrate the attack on the WTC and the horrible deaths of four thousand innocent Americans. Are they all Wahabists? Why is bin-Laden a hero in every Islamic country?
"Crucify him, crucify him."
Oh well, the Constitution protects foolish speech, and its speakers, along with the wise. ;^)
(like c_c, I'm surprised to find myself on your side! ;^))
Not in the United States we haven't. Look what gets said about Catholics, the Pope gets called the anti-Christs, Baptists take their fair share of bashing, Unitarians are called some terrible names, Fundamentalists are mocked. I listened once to a Seventh Day Adventist and a Baptist argue and both ended up calling the other's church a church of Satan. It's all part of freedom or speech and freedom of religion and it seem the Muslims can't accept that. They can tolerate no criticism what-so-ever so they don't need to come to the US where that should be allowed.
Actually, not to that degree. The New York State Supreme Court ruled in about 1892 that Islam, and other "imposters," were not to be granted the same freedom in the U.S. as was Christianity. That ruling has never been abandoned or reversed.
Are you telling us that the numerous æcumenical councils summoned for that precise purpose were not debating the human-divine duality of Christ?
Cut me a break. LOL, you obviously haven't read very meny of my posts here at FR.
Know what you are talking about, before throwing accusations. Bin Laden is a WAHABIST. Check Wahabism in a search engine. Do research. Know thine enemy, then come back and we'll have an intelligent discussion.
Logging off to help Hubby fix his mother's water.
The pastor IS being "tolerant", in the sense that he is not advocating burning down mosques or interring Muslims in concentration camps. He is just exercising HIS freedom of religion to declare that, if you assume the Gosples are correct, then the logical conclusion is that Islam is a religion of the Anti-Christ.
I'm sure you would be more comfortable if everybody adopted a position of "Well, I'm not really sure about the rightness of my position, so I won't make strong statements about it", but that's not how the religion game works. Either the pastor IS convinced that the Gospels are correct, and that it's his job to point out the logical implications that derive from that, or he's in the wrong job
Personally, I'm an agnostic, somewhat lapsed Catholic, but that doesn't stop me from stating to people that, based on what I've read in the Qu'ran, Islam is an inherently evil religion.
One man's theology is another man's belly laugh -- Robert Heinlein
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