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1 posted on 11/21/2001 6:50:27 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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Excellent article and on point in so many ways. Homosexuality is one of Satan's most important creations, and the one I am sure - he is most proud of.
2 posted on 11/21/2001 6:59:26 AM PST by Buffalo Bob
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Peck's book listed herein is an excellent read. And, although it is not about homosexuals, I can see the subset included.
3 posted on 11/21/2001 7:03:45 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; wwjdn; RnMomof7; TonyTheTigger; He Rides A White Horse; George W. Bush; Weirdad
Rump Roast Bump
4 posted on 11/21/2001 7:04:39 AM PST by Khepera
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Heterosexual society and family are being ravaged.

Anyone who is involved in any sort of children's services nowadays will tell you how many kids are ravaged by casual divorce and unwed parenthood.

I would imagine that very little of those particular problems are traceable to adults who suddenly succumb to the blandishments of homosexuality.

While I have no love for the militant "gay" agenda, let's be aware that most of the "ravaging" of heterosexual families is coming from 100% heterosexuals who don't want to make a family work.

5 posted on 11/21/2001 7:08:41 AM PST by Uncle Fud
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The light of truth shines bright.
6 posted on 11/21/2001 7:11:32 AM PST by pray4liberty
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BTTT
7 posted on 11/21/2001 7:15:09 AM PST by Mr. Mulliner
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To: FormerLib; NotTheDevil; ethical; ppaul; Clint N. Suhks; Jimbaugh; Notwithstanding...
Ping!
10 posted on 11/21/2001 7:23:55 AM PST by EdReform
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"Is this gay behaviour sick?
Good article but the title is redundant
13 posted on 11/21/2001 7:26:52 AM PST by damnlimey
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Unattractive gay men find it nearly impossible to find a friend, let alone a lover.

They should try to pair up with equally unattractive homosexual men. After all, the solution above seems to be working fine with homosexual women.

14 posted on 11/21/2001 7:27:19 AM PST by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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Gay Taliban.....

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15 posted on 11/21/2001 7:27:46 AM PST by ppaul
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Gays have on average almost 10 sex partners every year and are lucky if they really know one of their names beforehand.
18 posted on 11/21/2001 7:30:42 AM PST by Always Right
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Remember learning how some organisms use lysosomes (AKA 'suicide sacs') to destroy themselves to prevent defective DNA from being passed to subsequent generations? Homosexuality sounds like an excellent way for higher organisms to do the same thing, hasten the death of the current organism while preventing the defective DNA from being passed on. This isn't a defense of the disputed 'gay gene' theory, but a suggestion that other defects are being targetted.

Any society that attempts to normalize such perversions is probably detonating its own 'suicide sacs.'

19 posted on 11/21/2001 7:33:19 AM PST by FormerLib
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"This book was written in 1989 and obviously a campaign similar to this has taken effect. Read what the authors say about it:

“By Conversion, we mean something far more profoundly threatening to the American Way of Life [than subversion] …We mean conversion of the average American´s emotions, mind, and will, through a planned psychological attack, in the form of propaganda fed to the nation via the media. We mean…to turn their hatred into warm regard whether they like it or not.” (153)..."


Through a planned psychological attack using a "skillful and clever media campaign":

From "The Overhauling of Straight America":

"The first order of business is desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay rights. To desensitize the public is to help it view homosexuality with indifference instead of with keen emotion... At least in the beginning, we are seeking public desensitization and nothing more. We do not need and cannot expect a full “appreciation” or “understanding” of homosexuality from the average American. You can forget about trying to persuade the masses that homosexuality is a good thing. But if only you can get them to think that it is just another thing, with a shrug of their shoulders, then your battle for legal and social rights is virtually won.

The way to benumb raw sensitivities about homosexuality is to have a lot of people talk a great deal about the subject in a neutral or supportive way. Open and frank talk makes the subject seem less furtive, alien, and sinful, more above-board. Constant talk builds the impression that the public opinion is at least divided on the subject, and that a sizable segment accepts or even practices homosexuality. Even rancorous debates between opponents and defenders serve the purpose of desensitization so long as “respectable” gays are front and center to make their own pitch. The main thing is to talk about gayness until the issue becomes thoroughly tiresome.

And when we say talk about homosexuality, we mean just that. In the early stages of any campaign to reach straight America, the masses should not be shocked and repelled by premature exposure to homosexual behavior itself. Instead, the imagery of sex should be downplayed and gay rights should be reduced to an abstract social question as much as possible. First let the camel get his nose inside the tent -- and only later his unsightly derriere!"

...In no time, a skillful and clever media campaign could have the gay community looking like the veritable fairy godmother to Western Civilization..."

24 posted on 11/21/2001 7:39:03 AM PST by EdReform
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While I agree that much of what is in the initial post is true, there are some sweeping generalisations. Not all gay men fit this mould.

I have NO love at all for a militant gay agenda, but I do have some gay friends who don't fit this stereotype. Of course, overt homosexuality, is less obvious here in Ireland than I imagine it is in the US.

26 posted on 11/21/2001 7:43:18 AM PST by Happygal
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Must be, hoardes of the rump rangers certainly are.
29 posted on 11/21/2001 7:46:41 AM PST by wattsmag2
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Wrong... 1. Just because people conceal themselves for obvious reason, it doesn't make them an pathological liars. I mean, look at Clinton, he is straight. This is non-sense. 2. Gays do not reject all forms of morality and values. They just reject stupid moral and values. Individual has to either adopt or discover his/her own value. Apprently, you just adopt any values as long as it's not gay. This article is pathetic... 3. Heterosexuals have unprotected sex even though they are diagnosed with HIV, too. How do you think women contract HIV. I guess they all get it from gays? 4. Majority of gays aren't promiscous. Most of the time, gays do not have good gay social connection. Where some live straight lives because they have to because people like you or they are single. Also Drugs and Alcohols, I guess heterosexuals do not do drugs and alcohols. I get it, gays invented this like gays invented HIV? 5. Manys gays do not engage in public sexual display. I don't know why this article says this? So stupid... 6. Relationship? Have you ever seen "Sex in the City." If you haven't, check it out. Heterosexual relationship doesn't last that long either. In ER, everybody has sex with everybody. I know it's television, but maybe that's how it is like to be among heterosexual dating ritual? This article is just stupid because it is full of garbage. This is what would sound like if this same crap was playing on Heterosexuals.. 1. Heterosexuals tend to get babies get on welfare program. 2. Heterosexuals are get divorced, leaving trauma to their children and family. Often, they divorce repeatly, resulting unstable life style. 3. Heterosexual men often cheats and they often cheats with their young female interns. 4. Heterosexual men are often are porn addicts. They subscribe to countless pornographic media for self indulgence. Often this type of ritual occurs with their wifes. Heterosexuals often fantasize about lesbians. 5. Heterosexuals are involved with racing profiling and racial discrimination. 6. Heterosexuals often do not wear condoms when they have sex, resulting bastard child or STD. 7. Some Heterosexuals kill their unborn child in convinience, resulting in murder. This happends quite often. They often fight this as rights, must be fun. 8. Heterosexuals produce gays and they tell them to go to hell. 9. Most rapes cases involve Heterosexual, hence most heterosexuals have rape tendencies, sickening act... 10. some heterosexuals commit animal cruelty. What else... I guess I can go on... The point is that the above article is a non-sense...
34 posted on 11/21/2001 7:54:32 AM PST by ideablitz
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As you read this, ask yourself if there is another human community, including the Mafia that could make these generalizations about itself.

Okay, let's see if the Mafia could make these generalizations about itself. We'll use the Sopranos as a stereotypical mafia model.

The authors say “a surprisingly high percentage” of pathological liars and con men are gay.

I feel safe in saying a surprisingly high percentage of pathological liars and con men are mafioso. Examples? Big Pussy---lying to Tony about being wire-tapped. Con men? Chris Moltesante with his tech stock rigging . . . Tony with his airline ticket rebate scam . . .

They say gays tend to reject all forms of morality and value judgments.

Oh man, the mafia could definitely say the same thing. Just watch one scene between Tony Soprano and Dr. Malphi (sp?).

They say gays suffer from a “narcissistic” personality disorder and they give this clinical description: “pathological self absorption, a need for constant attention and admiration, lack of empathy or concern for others, quickly bored, shallow, interested in fads, seductive, overemphasis on appearance, superficially charming, promiscuous, exploitative, preoccupied with remaining youthful, relationships alternate between over idealization and devaluation.”

Two Words: Christopher Moltesante. Remember when he strutted like a peacock into that knee-jerk pizza joint after he became a made man? Madonne.

As an example of this narcissism, the authors say “a very sizable proportion of gay men” who have been diagnosed HIV positive continue to have unprotected sex.

Remember the guys who tried to pop Moltesante? I bet they were having unprotected sex . . . they lived together, that scene where they were hanging around in their BVDs . . .

They say the majority of gays are extremely promiscuous and self-indulgent. They must continuously up the ante to achieve arousal. This begins with alcohol and drugs and includes such “forbidden” aspects of sex as wallowing in filth (fetishism and coprophilia) and sadomasochism, which involves violence.

Richie Aprile forcing the barrel of a gun into Janice Soprano's mouth while the two of them were having sex. And how many affairs has Tony had?

They say many gays indulge in sex in public bathrooms and think it is antigay harassment when it is stopped. Many think they have a right to importune straight males, including children.

Okay, you've got me there. Mafia guys go to cheap hotels way out in the burbs to get their jollies.

Many gays are “single minded sexual predators” fixated on youth and physical beauty alone. When it comes to the old or ugly, gays are “the real queerbashers.”

Funny, but you never see Tony, Chris, or Paulie Walnuts chasing tail that looks like Rosie O'Donnell or Penny Marshall.

“Relationships between gay men don´t usually last very long.” They quickly tire of their partners and fall victim to temptation.

The whole story of the Sopranos is the story of criminal business relationships gone awry and power struggles within organizations---all based on greed and temptation.

Even friendships are based on the sexual test and hard to sustain. Unattractive gay men find it nearly impossible to find a friend, let alone a lover.

"It ain't personal---it's binnes."

The authors say gays tend to deny reality in various ways: wishful thinking, paranoia, illogic, emotionalism and embracing crackpot ideas.

Tony Soprano constantly denies his business activities are criminal. Instead, he sees himself as some sort of noble Roman chieftan in modern form.

So there. Except for one, these generalizations could apply to the mafia as well as they could apply to homosexuals.


36 posted on 11/21/2001 8:00:59 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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We mean conversion of the average American´s emotions, mind, and will, through a planned psychological attack, in the form of propaganda fed to the nation via the media.

Oh I get it. I wondered why queer agenda articles were appearing on FR with greater and greater frequency. At one point about two weeks ago there were four distinct articles in in the recent posts list when I logged in. I thought I was at QueerRepublic for a second. Anyways I'd just like to let you to know it's not working. We need to start enforcing current anti-sodomy laws, pass new anti-sodomy laws in states which have repealed them, and increase the severity of punishment for these crimes against society. My own feeling is this needs to be a capital crime once again.

56 posted on 11/21/2001 9:15:08 AM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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Their behavior is sick. And it´s contagious.

The author does his cause no service by appending that mythical, loaded statement to his article.

57 posted on 11/21/2001 9:16:41 AM PST by KillerWabbit
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Imagine that an organism is sick. Imagine that the sick cells convince the organism that they were healthy, and in fact, the healthy cells are sick. The gullible organism would just get sicker and sicker.

Five stars, Analogy of the Year Award! In fact, the whole article is five stars, and I wouldn't mind reading more by this author. The ONLY THING good about islam is the way they treat those convicted of this particularly disgusting form of debauchery.

64 posted on 11/21/2001 9:43:00 AM PST by LibWhacker
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