Is This Gay Behavior Sick?

Too Good Reports ^ | November 21, 2001 | Henry Makow Ph.D.

[GreatOne]

A person whose work you should look into is Dr. Charles Socarides. He has done a tremendous amount of work regarding what causes men to engage in homosexual activity: recruitment, molestation, lack of strong/any father figure, overdomineering mother, etc.

Homosexuality is like smokers, alcoholics, drug addicts, certain sexual fetishes, or other unhealthy behavior. The people who engage in these behaviors either think that what they do is perfectly normal, or they have no way to stop doing what they are doing. Because homosexual activity is so emotionally based, it requires more intensive therapy to change the behavior.

Regarding the APA, Time Magazine, back in the early 1970s, reported on the gay activists demonstrating outside of the APA's meeting, which got violent. It was through threats, not any scientific research, which got the APA to take the behavior off of its abnormal list. Look at all of the so-called studies in recent years - none of them state they show conclusively that homosexuality is genetic, and none of the favorable ones have come even close to being duplicated by other researchers. But you wouldn't know that from the media and the activists.

Without getting too much into Catholic theology regarding human sexuality, all of our body parts perform basic biological functions. The human behind is used for removing waste from our bodies. It is not built for intercourse, and is greatly harmed by those who engage in placing things there. Other body parts give pleasure as well, but, again, that's not allowed, either (Catholic theology coming into play). How anyone could say homosexual activity is anything but abnormal, I'll never know.

[TightSqueeze]

When people are fanatically dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other kind of dogmas or goals, it's always because these dogmas or goals are in doubt."

From your post I have no idea what side of this issue you are taking, but this statement is wisdom.

[DouglasKC]

Actually, I believe the injunctions against eating shellfish, the injunction to make animal sacrifices to God, and whatever injunctions there are against homosexuality are all found in the Old Testament.
Yes, those are all aspects of the Lord's Covenant with the Jews.

Some are and some aren't. Some of Gods commands existed before they were given to Jews.

So are we saying those are all antiquated now?

No, but as those of us who know the Bible can tell you, the only aspects of the Judaic law that are binding on the Christian are those involving sexual morality.

Technically, no aspects of Judaic law apply. Realistically, when one knows God through Christ he will find it difficult to violate the 10 commandments as laid out in the old testament and further amplified and expanded by Jesus in the new testament.

As I said above, there were other laws and commandments that existed before the Jews and were practiced by the early church.

By the way, what exactly does the Bible say about homosexuality?

It calls it an abomination.

Homosexual sex is a sin. But so is heterosexual sex outside of marriage. And so is lusting after other woman (or men) when you're married. The point being that everyone sins. It's part of human nature to sin. All sin is the same in Gods eye. Any sin makes us unworthy of God.

If you two really want to discuss belief, go to this thread:

The NeverEnding Story (The New Christian Chronicles)

I guarantee you'll find people to agree and disagree with.

[TightSqueeze]

To think otherwise, socially, is equivilent to, individually, deciding you can fly and jumping off a cliff. The fall is the epitome of freedom itself, until the bottom arrives.

The problem in-a-nutshell is... In this life even if you don't try to fly, the bottom arrives anyway. Nobody escapes the bottom.

[roylene]

Oh contraire! The psychiatric assosication took a poll of members in the early 70’s to determine if homosexuality was in fact a mental disorder. Only 10% of the members replied with only 55% agreeing that it was not a perversion – vawla! It was announced that the American psychiatric association no longer considered homosexuality a mental disease. So there you have it, less than six percent of psychiatrist thought that homosexuality was a perversion, the rest just went along with the decree. As far as I am concerned homosexuals have NO credibility as long as they accept the NAMBLA organization as just another life style. Even though they decry molestation.

[William Terrell]

Nobody escapes the bottom.

But few want it to come so quickly and so messy.

[FormerLib]

Homosexual sex is a sin. ... Any sin makes us unworthy of God.

Which is why decent people must condemn the homosexual lifestyle. Nothing good can come from such poisonous weeds.

[FormerLib]

If your studied the Bible, you would understand that the "Sodomite sin" had nothing to do with homosexuals.

Oh no, are you one of those guys that actually bought into the idea that God destroyed Sodom because they were inhospitable! LOL!

[Jim Scott]

Pardon me if I step on any of your toes, but I think any religion that condemns homosexuality as "an abomination" is a pretty crappy religion, and you can have it.

Pardon me if I find your touching and clearly deep concern for homosexuals absurd, as they push the homosexual agenda into the public schools and continue to attack the Boy Scouts, among other outrages from this tiny group of perverts.

Your angry anti-Christianity speaks for itself.

Christians consider the bible the Word of God and the naming of homosexual behavior as an abomination was from God, not man. Your casual, sneering rejection of that fact is offensive and no, for that you are not 'pardoned'.

[eaglewatch]

Ref #149: I don't "buy into" anything in the "bible!" I go back to the original sources from which the, small, wandering, war-loving tribe of Jews borrowed. Again, the "Sodomite sin" was not about homosexuals.

[GussiedUp]

Just about every reputable psychologist in the world disagrees with the assumption that homosexuality is a perversion

Just about every reputable psychologist in the world used to agree with the assumption that homosexuality was a perversion. Then along came "political correctness"

[sit-rep]

Another pillow biter lover...

Humans are on the top of the mammal chain. A male and a female produce a young human.

Homosexuals produce nothing. Homosexuals are a waste of human life--waste of a mammal. Period.

You want to talk about feelings?...well I'm sure as hell glad you were not around when the fight began to put us normal mammals on top...otherwise we could just as well be sex slaves for horses, dolphins etc...

Your kind is not normal.

SR

[BikerNYC]

Rubbish. You're proposing a definition so broad and slack that, at bottom, all it really means is "important, only in a deeply meaningful way that I nevertheless find impossible to express".

No, I'm looking at the experience of the sacred and describing it. Tell me this...what is it that you feel when you experience the sacred? Internalize it and describe it. Isn't it true that we definately feel a certain way when something is presented to us that we think is sacred? What is that feeling? That's what I'm trying to get at.

And I think this started when you said something can be sacred and fun at the same time. I'm still waiting to hear how you experience something as sacred and fun at the same time. What are your emotions like when that happens?

I agree that sex can be sacred. But not because someone else defines it that way. Rather, it is sacred because you experience it as sacred. A particular sexual experience can be so overwhelmingly, beautiful, wonderful, and breathtaking, that it compares to being sacred. But when that mystical, wonderful and transcendent experience happens, I don't think you are experiencing "fun" at the same time. "Fun" is just too trivial an experience to co-exist with the sacred.

[eastsider]

"Fun" is just too trivial an experience to co-exist with the sacred.

Jesus never had fun?

[BikerNYC]

I believe this piece of anti-Christian doggerel can be tossed on the heap with all the rest.

Who said anything about being anti-Christian. It's anti-dogma and pro-freedom. It's pro-freedom because it seeks to cast off that which others seek to define you by, and to allow you to come to grips with life on your own terms.

It's a constant questioning of self-described authority.

[FormerLib]

I go back to the original sources from which the, small, wandering, war-loving tribe of Jews borrowed. Again, the "Sodomite sin" was not about homosexuals.

Ah, one of those anti-Judeo-Christian bigots! Sorry, I didn't realize I was wasting my time.

[MissMillie]

On the other hand, they say heterosexual behavior is not natural, but socially conditioned and 'oppressive.'"

I'm not aware that homosexuals say this about heterosexual behavior among heterosexuals. Anyone got anything to back this up?

[troublesome creek]

too much Oprah for you.