Posted on 11/17/2001 10:58:21 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
Saturday, Nov. 17, 2001 11:39 a.m. EST Flight 587 Video Shows 'Puff of Smoke' in Sky A second-by-second videotape of the final moments of doomed American Airlines Flight 587 shows a puff of smoke in the sky seconds after it crashed outside New York's JFK Airport Monday, lending credence to eyewitnesses who say the jetliner exploded before slamming into a Rockaway, N.Y., neighborhood. Though Flight 587 probers have not released the key videotape, shot from a Metropolitan Transportation Authority highway surveillance camera, reporters from New York's Daily News were allowed to view it Friday. "The tape ... shows a white outline of the jetliner against a clear sky in fairly steep decline," the News reported in Saturday editions. "Seconds later, the outline disappears and the video shows a blurry, white, undefined patch as the plane apparently breaks apart." Visible in one of the final frames of the sequential videotape is "a puff of white smoke in the sky." The images of Flight 587's final moments are said to be "very unclear." FBI and NTSB investigators hope to learn more through video enhancement techniques. On Friday, MTA spokesman Tom Kelly told NewsMax.com that the FBI had turned the videotape over to the NTSB, but apparently both agencies now have copies and continue to analyze them. Enhancement of the Flight 587 video could confirm the accounts of eyewitnesses like Jackie Powers, who, minutes after the crash, told both ABC News and WABC Radio in New York that she saw "an enormous flash" near the wing on the A-300 Airbus before it dropped from the sky. "I don't know if it was fire or an explosion," she said. "It appeared that debris fell from the left side [of the plane]. It just plummeted. It had no momentum whatsoever. It just plummeted." Dozens of other witnesses told various media outlets they saw the jet either explode or catch fire before it crashed. An explosion would be a problem for NTSB officials, who spent the better part of the last few days trying to sell the idea that the plane's vertical stabilizer snapped off, causing the in-flight breakup, because of "wake turbulence" from a Japan Airlines 747 that had taken off from JFK two minutes earlier. Independent aviation experts have generally scoffed at the NTSB theory. "[747 wake turbulence] is not strong enough to be able to break off a tail or to compromise any sort of a normal airplane," said ABC News aviation analyst John Nance on Friday. "They could turn a little airplane upside down. But especially an A-300, which is a jumbo jet - no way in the world should that ever have any potentially disastrous impact on the aircraft or the tail," he explained. On Wednesday, an unnamed aviation expert quoted in New York's Newsday said one likely explanation for Flight 587's breakup was a bomb exploding on board. (See: Aviation Expert: Bomb One Likely Cause of Flight 587 Crash.)
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Hmm, nobody took credit for 9-11, not for several weeks anyway. In fact they denied it. Finally they sort of admitted it, but only in a video intended for their supporters, and even then somewhat ambiguously. Sometimes the purpose of terror is merely to terrorise, and get a reaction from the victims, the reaction being the desired outcome, to be further exploited.
Should have been centrifigal force. Centripetal (spelled it wrong too!) force is real, it's what causes the circular motion. The centrifigal "force" is the result of choosing a rotating coordinate system, which I try not to do, since it confuses me. :)
The graphite fiber, though stronger than steel in the finished product, is the same material as pencil lead, hence the color.
That is precisely my question.
Which brings up another complication - I doubt terrorists would be above claiming credit for an accident - I believe it's happened before...
So, here's a question for everyone on this thread - If the gov't continues with the claim that Flight 587 was an accident, and a terrorist group comes out and claims responsibility, who do you believe????
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these 2 pics look identical, different names???
anyone else see this?
Nope, weight does matter. Why? Because the vortices are a side effect of generating lift. If the aircraft is heavier, you have to generate more lift. You do this by having a larger angle of attack, the angle between the direction the nose is pointed and the direction the aircraft is moving. A higher angle of attack also means more drag, and thus a larger thrust required from the engines. With a higher angle of attack the air is moving faster as it traverses a larger arc going ovr the wing. Faster air means stronger/bigger vortices, everything else being equal besides aircraft weight.
How big the difference between a heavily loaded and a lightly loaded 747, I couldn't say.
On the voice recorder, the pilot remarked he heard a rattling noise on the plane. The cockpit voice recorder picked up the noise.
Now the question: Since when do bombs make a rattling noise? They usually just go KA-BOOM!
Well???
But of course one has to employ logic and reason to reach this conclusion, rather than hysterically spinning to somehow support whatever coverup one is contending. Ya know, I hear how there are no differences between Republican and Democrat legislators, but frankly I see alot of similarities between conspiracy nuts and Democrats in their emotional bull-headed refusal to consider anything other than their templates, in this case "the govt is lying to hide xxxx from us".
Sorry for the rant, but some of these goofballs really make me hesitant at times to recommend Free Republic to liberal friends who are just starting to see the light. Sometimes they are more focused means for conversion, but what a shame to have to wait to benefit from all the other rich debate and thought found here on FR.
Your picture looks like something round went through it.
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