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JetBlue Pilot Saw American Airlines Crash
Reuters ^
| Patrick Markey
Posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:47 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
I ain't goin' along with the "it fell apart because it hit wind" story...
To: The Magical Mischief Tour
I can see how if the stabilizer fell off it would send the plane into a spin, but that doesnt explain the smoke.
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posted on
11/16/2001 1:21:48 PM PST
by
Husker24
Comment #4 Removed by Moderator
To: FallGuy; Travis McGee
ping
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posted on
11/16/2001 1:21:49 PM PST
by
B4Ranch
Comment #6 Removed by Moderator
To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
Penny wise, pound foolish.Sadly, this gives new meaning to a pound of flesh.
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posted on
11/16/2001 1:21:50 PM PST
by
Norb2569
To: The Magical Mischief Tour
And the JetBlue pilot is currently being "debriefed" by all appropriate 3-letter government agencies.
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posted on
11/16/2001 1:21:50 PM PST
by
July 4th
To: The Magical Mischief Tour
I heard one of the federal agency guys, during a press briefing this morning, say that a commercial pilot who was in the air at the time, saw it all happen and radioed in the information as it happened. The federal guy said they were going to interview that pilot.
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posted on
11/16/2001 1:21:51 PM PST
by
Fred25
To: Husker24
"I can see how if the stabilizer fell off it would send the plane into a spin, but that doesnt explain the smoke."
Well, accidents can be expected to continue to happen while the RADICAL ISLAMIC WORLD is at war with the United States.
.............see www.debka.com for a report that BIN LADEN'S thugs are gearing up around the world for a terror campaign during the holey month of bombydon.
To: Angus_Day
Do you actually have evidence of that kind of wind sheer ripping the wing off a large aircraft?
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posted on
11/16/2001 1:21:59 PM PST
by
MistyCA
To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
Duct tape as really cheap. I don't know why they skrimp so.
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posted on
11/16/2001 1:21:59 PM PST
by
oyez
To: God_isa_Jew
holey month of bombydonWhat a great phrase! I LOVE it!!!
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posted on
11/16/2001 1:21:59 PM PST
by
kayak
To: Angus_Day
It was a beautiful clear fall day in NY on Monday when the plane crashed. We're having a horrible storm with lots of strong windshears in central Texas right now, and none of the planes have broken apart and fallen from the sky.
To: The Magical Mischief Tour
It's going to take a wide open, undeniable show stopper of a plane crash like 9-11 on live TV in order for us to have another officially sanctioned terrorist attack involving commercial transport aircraft.
The airlines simply have too much to lose; uncle sam already gave 15 billion and wants to tighten the purse strings. Not to mention the public fear factor.
To: God_isa_Jew
.............see www.debka.com for a report that BIN LADEN'S thugs are gearing up around the world for a terror campaign during the holey month of bombydon. Sorry but you lost credibility once you mentioned Debka. Debka ????Puuuulease.
To: DreamWeaver
Actually Debka.com has proven to be a highly accurate source of very valuable information for the last year.
..........of course, the enemies of Israel seem to not appreciate the presence of the mossad's media outlet for some unknown reason.
To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Talked to an airline Captain I know, and he said a few interesting things.
1. He won't bid the Airbus. Says the French computer will override the Captain in extreme situations and will not allow you to fly out of extreme danger situations.
2. The pin that holds the rudder on is made of a plastic composite. It was done instead of aluminum because it is lighter weight and just as strong. However, Captain says, the failure of such material is poorly understood. It can degenerate from UV light, hence it can only be painted white. It can go fine for five years or so and then suddenly go from 99% strength to 20% without warning.
3. Most American Airline airbus planes are flying from NY to the Islands because they can haul large cargo packages and are money makers on those routes even without passenger loads. They aren't flying many on any other routes.
4. The planes that were recently retired from AA fleet due to cutting routes were Boeing planes that were scheduled for retirement in the next couple years anyway, but could be brought back to replace airbus planes if AA grounds the airbus fleet.
5. He conjectures that the rudder started to come loose from failure of the Von epoxy (whatever I can't remember) material of the pin, and it was the rudder flapping that causes the airframe shudder, not wake turbulence. The torque of the flapping rudder caused the plane to veer back and forth to the point that the engines came loose and one maybe took a wing with it.
When the Captain tried to make the drastic maneuvers necessary to regain a semblance of control, the French computer overrode him.
To: July 4th
It shouldn't be necessary to remind the tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists that this country is at war and that popping off publicly with sinister suspicions that incite suspicion, fear and hatred of our government gives aid and comfort to our enemies.
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posted on
11/16/2001 1:22:02 PM PST
by
Asmodeus
To: All
What's that about SMOKE?
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posted on
11/16/2001 1:22:02 PM PST
by
Chad
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