Posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:39 PM PST by kattracks
Yea Right, more likley OBL friends are the real factor in this crash.
Today's analysis of the air traffic control tower's radar data seemed to show that air turbulence could have been a factor
There's air turbulence every day. Why doesn't air turbulence cause crashes like this every day? I have a feeling there are some other factors.
They showed 2nd black box "damaged" on TV this morning, so data can not be read. If the black box gets damaged from the fall from 1000 feet the only way it was "damaged" could be by explosion.
The fix is in they are already lying.
They are really trying to spin it now. Do they really expect us to believe that???
They've gotten better at their lying BS and they've gotten the pilots on board with them...
The spin began with the PILOT right before the plane went down mentioning turbulence on the cockpit voice recorder, that's how effective the NTSB spin machine is now...they must have threatened the pilots family on the radio to get him to say something about "turbulence" instead of "terrorists" in the planes' last minute.
Boy I smell it from here.
The black box was fine. the interface for getting the data out easily was damaged, meaning you couldn't simply just plug it in and get the data. They sent it to the manufacturer and got the data out.
Now if the "truth " will just be told. Whatever the story is will be shaped to protect the travelers attitude toward flying.
This is an obvious red herring. Wake vortices sink and spread outward from the path of the plane that generates them (although wind will affect it).
Both planes were in a climb profile, typically at thousands of feet per minute. If there was only 800 feet difference in altitude at four miles separation, the AA flight would have beeen well above the actual path taken by the JA flight.
However, there is a possibility that the either flight leveled out briefly during climbout. The standard departure from Newark requires that a plane not exceed a certain altitude without further clearance, to avoid conflict with incoming traffic. I don't have access to SIDS for JFK, so I don't know it is the same there.
Perhaps we will see the actual path and altitude, as the information is publicly available from http://www.flightexplorer.com/.
The past history of reports in the past have shown them to be unreliable and I personally don't feel comfortable that the truth will be told. Just my opinion.
This doesn't match the report at the NTSB press conference today. What is your source for your assertion that the "black box was fine," and the "interface was damaged"? How is data extracted from a flight data recorder? Tell us.
This latest scenario to attempt to vindicate the apparent "Holy Grail" of a "mechanical failure" explanation for Fl. 587 apparently derives from a comment one of the pilots made on the voice recorder before the crash. I'd like to know what the exact words were. I'd also like to know if a pilot would normally open the engine throttles full out, the way these pilots allegedly did or tried to do, in response to such turbulence. I don't claim to be a pilot, but I've been in a plane going through turbulence many times before, and I don't ever recall the pilot trying to "gun it" through the bumps.
TERRORIST THREATS TO THE UNITED STATES
Excerpt:
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A lot of weird mechanical or structural crap has downed or damaged airplanes.
A fresh roll of reynolds wrap!
Magic-pulse weapons and secret death rays are useless without it!~
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