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NEW Gallup: Bush's Soaring Approval More Sustained Than Any In Presidential History
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Posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:37 PM PST by hawaiian

"President Bush's job approval rating shows no sign of decline. The latest Gallup poll, conducted Nov. 8-11, measures the president’s approval rating at 87%. Bush’s job approval has remained at 86% or higher in seven polls conducted over two months. In the history of Gallup polling, no prior presidents have been able to sustain their high approval levels, with no apparent decline, this long." Full Story


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To: Senator Pardek
Lighten up - it was a joke, as proven with the emoticon I inserted.

Sorry but, given the way so many tend to view what you write with all seriousness where I'm concerned, I can't risk just having fun with you.

281 posted on 11/16/2001 1:17:19 PM PST by Askel5
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To: Askel5
Well, I'm heartened by your assertion that somebody out there takes anything I say seriously.

See, another joke - are you starting to see the pattern? Just place a scope at my forehead - but don't pull the trigger!

282 posted on 11/16/2001 1:17:21 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: Askel5
Well, Reagan had his blights when it came to the pro-life movement, by the names of O'Connor and Kennedy.

To me the most important things for a President to do regarding the pro-life cause are 1) use the bully pulpit to influence the public debate, 2) nominate good justices (particularly to the Supreme Court) and 3) limit funding of UN population control groups.

On the first, Bush has done well (even if he made a compromise that he probably did not need to regarding already-dead babies' stem cells), emphasizing that the pro-life position is mainstream and important. Reagan did better, though. On the second, as I mentioned above, Reagan's record is not as good as his use of the bully pulpit. It is too soon to tell overall how Dubya will do in that regard, but his first batch of federal judges were good on aggregate. And on the third, Bush has definitely been a step in the right direction.

283 posted on 11/16/2001 1:17:32 PM PST by Hugh Akston
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To: mc5cents
NICE!!!! Great Picture...
284 posted on 11/16/2001 1:17:32 PM PST by KLT
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To: Senator Pardek; Askel5
FYI...
Assisted Suicide: And Now, The Federals Won't Even Let Us Die
Source: Toogood Reports; Published: November 13, 2001
Author: Vin Suprynowicz

285 posted on 11/16/2001 1:17:33 PM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Askel5
If you'll read what I post, you'll see that I've laid out for you exactly who "they" are when it comes to those who've some notion this War on Terrorism won't end anytime soon.

Oh yeah, it's the same "they" who were behind the "stooges" that killed MLK, RFK, etc. Allrighty, then.

As for the "son of a Bush family friend" ... I am speaking to this Common Knowledge: Bush Son Had Dinner Plans With Hinckley Brother Before Shooting

You mean this?

Scott Hinckley, brother of John W. Hinckley Jr., who allegedly shot Reagan, was to have dined tonight in Denver at the home of Neil Bush, one of the vice president's sons.

There was a thread here yesterday about Billy Bush getting a job at CNN. Three people on that one thread either went to college with him, or knew somebody who did. And Billy Bush went to a small, pretty obscure New England college. What does this mean? Absolutely nothing, except that the Bushes are known to interact with lots of people (remember George H.W. Bush and his thousands of thank-you notes?) If you're going to pin the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan on George Bush, you're going to need a bit more evidence than Neil Bush having dinner with Hinckley's brother!

As becomes clear (to you and others, if not Pardek) in my subsequent posts, I find it merely an indication that things AREN'T always what they seem ... PARTICULARLY where the omnipotence -- or smarts -- of the Bush family is concerned.

Tools.

What is becoming clear is that you believe in the puppetmaster idea, where some really bad guys sit around pulling the strings. Yet you accuse George H. W. Bush of being behind Reagan's assassination. First the Bush family are merely puppets for the real shadow government, then you have Bush trying to kill Reagan! Now who's being the "tool here?

Finally, why don't you pick up a book and read something about the Nuremberg Trials before spouting off about war tribunals. If you don't have time to read a book, you can always rent "Judgment at Nuremberg" -- it even has Spencer Tracy and Judy Garland in it.

290 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:00 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago
Finally, why don't you pick up a book and read something about the Nuremberg Trials

As soon as we declare a war against a particular enemy or nation, I'll be much more inclined to entertain all the parallels being drawn between this "War" and World War II.

Until then, I see no reason these military tribunals couldn't be used in our War Against Drugs ... the far more similar "War".

291 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:02 PM PST by Askel5
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To: Askel5
If indeed Hinkley tried to assassinate Reagan, then indeed it was the son of a Bush family friend/acquaintance who tried to assassinate Reagan. Can't you even keep your conspiracy theories straight? According to the article you cited, John Hinckley was the brother, not the son, of the Bush family friend/acquaintance.

Lord knows I try but I'm a little weak on "Coincidence Theory". I should think that the Bush Family itself (enamoured as they are of "sending a message") understand this sort of thing perfectly well.

You're backtracking here. First you insinuate that Bush was behind's Reagan's assassination attempt. Then you say that he wasn't, but the evil "they" who were behind it were sending him a message. Wow, spooky -- one of Bush's five children knew one of John Hinckley's brothers. And what was this "psuedo-MESSAGE," as you call it? It's a pretty weak one, if you ask me.

292 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:03 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: Askel5
Until then, I see no reason these military tribunals couldn't be used in our War Against Drugs ... the far more similar "War".

How about this, which has been pointed out repeatedly to you in this thread -- the EO specifically bars American citizens from being prosecuted under it!

293 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:11 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago
My dear NYCVirago ... I guess I still object on two grounds: (1) the patently obvious double-standard invoked by the United States and (2) the ability of the tribunals (a la the McVeigh trial) to prevent anything unsavory coming out in a real trial.

That's just me. I've never been big on the "do as I say, not as I do" sorts.

In any case ... you'll be happy to know I'm on the hunt for the full text. It isn't up on the Presidential docs site and I haven't found it in the Federal Register yet but I did find this:

Continuation of Emergency Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction

On November 14, 1994, by Executive Order 12938, President Clinton declared a national emergency with respect to the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States posed by the proliferation of nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons (weapons of mass destruction) and the means of delivering such weapons. Because the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them continues to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States, the national emergency first declared on November 14, 1994, and extended on November 14, 1995, November 12, 1996, November 13, 1997, November 12, 1998, November 10, 1999, and November 12, 2000, must continue in effect beyond November 14, 2001. In accordance with section 202(d) of the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1622(d)), I am continuing for 1 year the national emergency declared in Executive Order 12938. This notice shall be published in the Federal Register and transmitted to the Congress.

(Presidential Sig.)B

THE WHITE HOUSE,

November 9, 2001.

For whatever reason ... once upon a time in the old Whitewater File days of early '98, I used to find this EO of Clinton's ominous. Had a copy of it tacked to my bulletin board, as a matter of fact.

I guess you could say the times they are a-changin though the song remains the same.

294 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:22 PM PST by Askel5
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To: NYCVirago
First you insinuate that Bush was behind's Reagan's assassination attempt.

Ludicrous.

The Hinkley connection (including supping with Neil) was just supposed to rub it in our faces or what?

295 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:23 PM PST by Askel5
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To: Askel5
Ludicrous.

The Hinkley connection (including supping with Neil) was just supposed to rub it in our faces or what?

What's ludicrous? You are the one who suggested it first, then you attempted to justify your insinuation with your link about Neil Bush knowing Scott Hinckley, now you suggest that this "Hinckley connection" was "just supposed to rub it in our faces or what." Yeah, this Hinckley connection, which most people outside o conspiracy kook central have even heard about, is really rubbing it in our faces! I expect a bit more from the puppetmasters, I really do, and one 20-year-old AP article doesn't meet those high standards.

296 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:24 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: Senator Pardek
See Virago's last and understand that this is why your attempts at humor are lost on me anymore.

Try to resist the urge to be funny if it means leading folks astray and only further encouraging them to believe I'm some sort of wacked out, Bush-hating conspiracy theorist.

I'm sick of it.

297 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:40 PM PST by Askel5
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To: nopardons
'fanfare for the common man'

the tympani drum is a double hit of 'daisy cutters' after a slow descent into baghdad!

what a lovely picture of the 'grim reaper' coming in by parachute!

298 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:48 PM PST by rockfish59
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To: epluribus_2
Clintax! lol!
299 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:53 PM PST by rockfish59
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To: gjenkins
If he were not a Bush, he would not be the president.

Al Alber Gore, Jr. would have been the VP or even a Senator if it weren't for his bloodline? A little honesty goes a long way, you know?

300 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:56 PM PST by AlGone2001
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