Posted on 11/13/2001 5:57:06 AM PST by Axion
Edited on 04/22/2004 11:45:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Investigators examining one of the separated engines from American Airlines Flight 587 found foreign debris inside, indicating that the engine may have ingested a flock of birds and then caught on fire.
The engine burned internally, people close to the investigation said. But its parts appeared intact, except for the damage from what is known in aviation as ``foreign object debris,'' or ``FOD.'' That would suggest that the engine didn't suffer a catastrophic failure from some mechanical breakdown, but from sucking in birds, these people said.
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Thanks for that report. Did not see it. Is there any further question that TWA800 was an investigation controlled to produce a desired outcome? (similar to almost all the "investigations" which occurred during the Clinoton Reign of Terror???)
Reason enough for sane people to question anything coming out of the mouths of the people investigating this crash.
President Bush - please - charge someone to see to it that the TRUTH and ONLY THE TRUTH is discovered and reported.
WE CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH!
Don't follow the Clinton clones who say we can't!
By the way - if it is a flock of birds that caused the crash - so be it. Surely that would mean the engine turbines would show signs of bird bleechhh all over its internal parts, correct?
I'm right with ya!
What? They're not real? YOU'RE LYING! YOU'RE LYING!
In the Air Force, each base has a BASH (Bird Aircraft Strike Hazard) committee. If the base is in an area with nesting or migratory bird problems, this is a serious issue. Also it is more of an issue if the base happens to fly single engine aircraft at all. Since airports are mostly involved in multi-engine take-offs it is less likely to be a problem. Two issues are needed to cause a problem here: a twin engine aircraft and either a flock of birds taking out both engines or the engine causing control surface damage as it breaks up or comes off the plane. An inexperienced crew could also contribute to the problem.
I realize it is standard to think of all problems as being a part of some conspiracy. However, during the bird migration season at an airport on a marsh, it may well be an accident.
I like it, how about… We will make no distinction between birds and the harbors that nourish them.
mil-spec chicken (un-frozen, with feathers,feet head and legs) shot out of a steam powered cannon to velocities of 500 miles an hour
I would pay good money to get my hands on one of those cannons!
Who would be safe with me, Lumberjack, roaming the neighborhood with a MilSpec Chicken Chucker Mk I? Criminals beware!
And the look on Safir's face said he wanted to say so much more! Btw, I could be wrong, I don't think he meant to imply that it was about politics per se, but just the politics involved in a business decision of any sort and with the FBI winning the toss as I think they did, then it came down to who they were protecting and that was the guy in the WH back then...
I'm sticking with this explanation.
However, the official said it was "something that was noted," but the information was not specific enough to be viewed as "actionable" intelligence — information that would require taking additional security measures.
As for yesterday's airline crash, the official echoed other administration aides who said there is no evidence so far to indicate that the American Airlines flight was sabotaged or bombed.
Terrorist are just joking, we all know it was a bird!
Yes, me too. Unfortunately it's directly connected to the Lockheeds steam plant, that's where they develop the pressure AND the volume.
"Lockheed formerly used two different devices to propel the chickens at the test windows: a long-barreled, 60mm high-velocity air cannon, and a multi-barreled MIRF gun (Multiple Independent Rapid Fire), to simulate clusterflock encounters. Different angles of deflection and velocities were used to simulate a plethora of scenarios for landings, take-offs, climbing to cruise altitude, and in-flight meals.
While Lockheed found the test results invaluable in their aim to provide impact-resistant glass for aircraft, they found that the use of chickens presented them with several problems. First, video and eye-witness monitoring of the testing -- particularly when the MIRF was used -- was degraded by the resulting 'feather blizzard', cutting visibility to near zero. Second, public relations became increasingly tense, as protesters from PETA, the Audubon Society, the ASPCA, and KFC began an escalated protest phase outside of Lockheed test facilities."
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