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Gun Foes Use Terror Issue in a Push for Stricter Laws
NY Times ^ | 12 Nov 2001 | Fox Butterfield

Posted on 11/13/2001 5:23:09 AM PST by white trash redneck

Gun Foes Use Terror Issue in a Push for Stricter Laws

By FOX BUTTERFIELD

The Associated Press
Michael Barnes, president of the Brady antigun campaign, said terrorists had easy access to guns.

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Gun-control organizations have seized on the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks to argue that any crackdown on terrorism should include tightening gun laws, particularly the so- called loophole that allows many people to buy weapons at gun shows without background checks.

Although efforts to close the loophole have failed in Congress, the gun- control groups are hoping to try again by recasting the issue as one of homeland defense. They point to several weapons-related arrests of noncitizens, some with links to terrorist groups, as examples of the urgency of changing the law.

On Sept. 10, for example, a jury in Detroit convicted Ali Boumelhem, a member of the terrorist group Hezbollah, on charges of conspiring to smuggle guns and ammunition to Lebanon. The F.B.I. had observed Mr. Boumelhem buying weapons at gun shows in Michigan.

Last year, a man accused of being a member of the Irish Republican Army, Conor Claxton, testified in federal court in Fort Lauderdale that he had gone to South Florida to buy guns at gun shows to smuggle to Northern Ireland.

And on Oct. 30, Muhammad Navid Asrar, a Pakistani, pleaded guilty in Texas to immigration charges and to illegal possession of ammunition. The authorities said that in the last seven years, Mr. Asrar, an illegal immigrant, had bought several weapons at gun shows, including a Sten submachine gun, a Ruger Mini- 14 rifle, two pistols and a hunting rifle.

Mr. Asrar said he resold the weapons at gun shows, but a federal grand jury is investigating whether he may be linked to Al Qaeda terrorists, said Daniel Bueno, the police chief of Alice, Tex., where Mr. Asrar owned a convenience store and gasoline station that carried little merchandise. Mr. Asrar has also aroused the authorities' suspicion when he asked his employees to take pictures of tall buildings and mail letters for him from Pennsylvania back to Texas.

Matthew Bennett, the director of public affairs for Americans for Gun Safety, said his group had begun a campaign to get out the message that because "terrorists are getting guns at gun shows, it is time for Congress to act on this issue."

The campaign, Mr. Bennett said, will include advertising in publications that members of Congress read, like Roll Call; working with state gun-safety groups to get voters to call their senators and representatives; and mailings of material intended to persuade local politicians to push for state laws closing the gun-show loophole.

"Now that we know for certain that terrorists have bought guns at gun shows," said John Cowan, president of Americans for Gun Safety, "basic political sense will tell you Congress needs to act in a bipartisan way to close that dangerous loophole. This could signal a historic shift in the gun debate."

Michael Barnes, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, formerly known as Handgun Control, offered a similar argument.

"You would think," Mr. Barnes said, "the Congress would have rushed to address this issue in the aftermath of Sept. 11, with terrorists having such easy access to guns in the United States."

But James Baker, the chief lobbyist for the National Rifle Association, called the gun-control groups' effort "a fairly crass attempt to bootstrap their agenda on the tragedy of Sept. 11."

The terrorists, Mr. Baker said, commandeered the planes they crashed into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon "with box cutters, and I don't see anyone talking about closing down True Value hardware stores."

The gun-show loophole exists because federal law, which requires background checks for anyone buying a gun from a federally licensed firearms dealer, even at a gun show, does not require a check for someone who buys a gun from a private seller at a gun show. Buyers can acquire guns in those transactions without questions or the need to show identification.

Efforts to change the law have failed in Congress, partly because of concerns by gun-rights advocates that background checks delay transactions. They can take as long as three days, and weekend gun shows last only two. Many supporters of the right to own guns object to any restrictions on ownership.

Senator John McCain, who introduced a bill earlier this year to close the loophole, said in a telephone interview that after Congress returned from its Christmas recess, he expected to push again for passage of his bill, perhaps as part of some homeland defense legislation.

"I believe the terrorists are exploiting a loophole in our laws so they don't have to have a background check," Senator McCain, an Arizona Republican, said. "It is hard to understand why we don't change this, but the N.R.A. remains extremely powerful."

Mr. Baker, the rifle association lobbyist, said these cases showed that "the system works," because the three men with terrorist links who bought guns at gun shows were eventually arrested, even if they were not detected by a background check.


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They will, in fact, use anything to push their agenda.
1 posted on 11/13/2001 5:23:10 AM PST by white trash redneck
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To: white trash redneck
It's amazing that these idiots will do anything they can to create new law and yet they won't help enforce the ones we already have. Creating a law does nothing, enforcing one does. You know the level of stupidity in these organizations is high and this just proves it more.
2 posted on 11/13/2001 5:26:26 AM PST by samuel_adams_us
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To: white trash redneck
They will, in fact, use anything to push their agenda

Yep. Any blood will do for their blood dance.

3 posted on 11/13/2001 5:28:33 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: white trash redneck
Okay... and how many acts of terrorism recently have involved the usage of a gun? That's what I thought...

They'd have a better case if they were whining that we close the box-cutter loophole. These people will stop at nothing to stir up public fears to get their way...

4 posted on 11/13/2001 5:30:34 AM PST by MWS
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To: white trash redneck
Excuse me. Isn't the international smggling of arms already illegal?
5 posted on 11/13/2001 5:32:00 AM PST by wjcsux
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To: *bang_list
Bang
6 posted on 11/13/2001 5:33:18 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: white trash redneck
Senator John McCain, who introduced a bill earlier this year to close the loophole, said in a telephone interview that after Congress returned from its Christmas recess, he expected to push again for passage of his bill, perhaps as part of some homeland defense legislation.

Knew we could count on McLame...

7 posted on 11/13/2001 5:37:04 AM PST by MileHi
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To: white trash redneck
And the terrorists used GUNS on these planes? PULEEZE, these gun control people are tragedy whores. They are sick.

Wife of BGH

8 posted on 11/13/2001 5:37:29 AM PST by Big Giant Head
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To: white trash redneck
"...to smuggle guns and ammunition to Lebanon. The F.B.I. had observed Mr. Boumelhem buying weapons at gun shows in Michigan."

Cheaper and easier to get them in Africa, and also closer to Lebanon.
Can these people not see the lunacy of thinking international terrorists are comming HERE to supply themselves with weapons?
Give me a break!

9 posted on 11/13/2001 5:51:48 AM PST by Psalm 73
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To: white trash redneck
"You would think," Mr. Barnes said, "the Congress would have rushed to address this issue in the aftermath of Sept. 11, with terrorists having such easy access to guns in the United States."

It's because they DO think, that they haven't rushed to address this issue. Give 'em time, they'll go back to not-thinking.

10 posted on 11/13/2001 5:53:28 AM PST by packrat01
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To: Psalm 73
Scum never sleeps.
11 posted on 11/13/2001 5:54:15 AM PST by WackyKat
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To: white trash redneck
the N.R.A. remains extremely powerful.

And what is the NRA's power derived from, Mr. McCain?

12 posted on 11/13/2001 6:00:14 AM PST by Ratatoskr
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To: white trash redneck
...This could signal a historic shift in the gun debate."

Oh, there was a historic shift in the gun debate all right.

In fact there were two of them.

Emerson and Sept. 11.

And the gun-haters are in *massive* denial....

13 posted on 11/13/2001 7:22:49 AM PST by George Smiley
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To: white trash redneck; All; *bang_list
If you care about your freedoms, please give a call to Fox himself ... he believes the "gun show loophole" is really there, and that it needs to be closed. (But wait - I thought that reporters were supposed to be objective and not take a position on matters they report on.)

You might also ask him, if some guns are banned but others aren't, is it a "loophole" that some guns remain un-banned.

Fox Butterfield
(781) 740-8940

14 posted on 11/13/2001 7:47:19 AM PST by coloradan
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To: Jeff Head; joanie-f; tommygun7; Critter; Buckeroo
BUMP
15 posted on 11/13/2001 10:38:13 AM PST by ReaganWasRight
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To: white trash redneck
BUMP
16 posted on 11/13/2001 12:36:23 PM PST by Aurelius
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To: MileHi
"I believe the terrorists are exploiting a loophole in our laws so they don't have to have a background check."

McCain knows better than this. There is no way that people could accumulate a significant number of weapons by buying from unlicensed dealers at gun shows. Unlicensed dealers must limit their inventory at a given show to very few weapons or they cannot deal without a license, also the number of unlicensed dealers at any show I have ever attended has been small. Given, in addition, the ready supply of arms closer to home in the middle east, the whole story of terrorists arming themselves at American gun shows is pathetically lame.

17 posted on 11/13/2001 12:50:11 PM PST by Aurelius
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To: Aurelius
McCain is one of the most unprincipled grandstanders in American politics. His campaign finance "reform" crusade shows his contempt for the first amendment. His concern over the gun show "loophole" and his collaboration with Andrew McKelvey shows his contempt for the second amendment. I am waiting for him to go for the hat trick and introduce a bill requiring us to quarter soldiers in our homes.

I hate to admit that I voted for him when he last ran for Senate from AZ.

18 posted on 11/13/2001 1:00:23 PM PST by white trash redneck
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To: white trash redneck
See this:

Gun foes use terror issue in push for stricter laws

Nobody has been more disingenuous on this issue than Arizona's Republican Senator, John McCain,

19 posted on 11/13/2001 6:27:41 PM PST by Aurelius
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To: coloradan
Good old Fox is among the most anti-2a reporters out there. He's been pushing this for years. I read his pro-VPC editorial awhile back.
20 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:25 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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